SWAPA Strike Vote Closed Early
- Thread starter ZapBrannigan
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i believe it.
I gave some 'corrective guidance' to one of our colleagues that was fit to be tied that ATI accepted a $2 million grant from ALPA for negotiations…
"Your dues hard at work, for another airline"
That's e x a c t l y how it's supposed to work and I hope the get the contract they deserve.
"I don't want to pay dues because I'm a 'right to work' voter!"
Meanwhile, they have 20 ACE reports because they feel the company didn't follow the spirit of the contract…
T
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Having just come from a perennially underfunded and understaffed “large B,” now A-carrier MEC, grumble grouse at your colleague.
///AMG
Well-Known Member
I was visiting with my wife's family during a long overnight recently. They have a bunch of Fortune magazines from the war years. Pretty interesting reads, but what struck me as a heavily recurring theme was their polling and editorials derived from the polling, about public perceptions of unions. It was of course being used to support the anti-union narrative of the time, segueing nicely into some quality union bashing. It is an interesting thought exercise to consider the deeply held opinions that many consider to have been self-derived. When in fact, the "grooming" has been occurring over decades and decades and as many generations. I'm not a person who views worker's unions as being infallible, but it is mildly amusing to listen to people who know nothing about them speak so emotionally about such contrived opinions. Just why do you think that this opinion was put in your brain? Who did it, and why did they do it? And who do you think it most benefits......you, or the "elites" that you also screech about? Nevermind, it is all a conspiracy....that's the only explanation.....
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
I found that it’s across the board, and not just from the Fortune reading types.
In fact, I’ve never found a group so openly hostile to organized labor than academia. The “elites” are just as mis-informed about labor issues, and they are just as hostile, if not more so, when it’s their ox they feel is getting gored.
The courts ruling that graduate students and athletes are entitled to not only labor protection but deserve a piece of the action was sweet justice. To listen to the universities, you’d think it was the end of the world their free labor wasn’t going to be free and the rain of pure cash was going to have a few rules attached to it.
Oh, the horror.
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ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
I really hoped the SAV would move the needle, but it sounds like the company is making just enough progress during each session that they can avoid the appearance of an impasse. No supermediation. No around the clock negotiations. Just a couple of days every few weeks. At this rate it’ll be well into 2024 before there’s anything to vote on. Gonna be interesting to see how they continue to recruit pilots when they trail the industry in pay rates, QOL, and benefits.
Like they always have: Shiny Jet Syndrome….
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
That doesn’t work with the 737. It doesn’t have a tray table or a side stick, or heated back massager. It’s apparently not instagram friendly enough for the young’ns.
Ian_J
Hubschrauber Flieger
Same here but without the SAV. Slow rolling with tiny bits of progress each week.
Meanwhile, new hires on reserve are blowing up our forum with questions like, “I have one day of reserve left and they assigned me a two day trip into my day off with plenty of pilots on reserve with days available on the list. Can they do that!?”
Yes, yes they can.
I’m really surprised the word hasn’t gotten around about our lack of QOL rules.
(That said, I’m super happy here and believe we’ll eventually make good progress, but there’s no effing way I’d end up on reserve voluntarily here.)
Are you tryna start a fight?! I will remove my dainty laced Airbus ladygloves and glare silently, but disapprovingly at you! HUZZAH. I SAID HUZZAH!!
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
Be nice to France. They have 51 weeks of vacation per year in between mandatory strikes, so I’d say they’re winning at life.
///AMG
Well-Known Member
I feel like they could do a better job sharing
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
24 hour picket announced in Dallas beginning June 15th into the morning of June 16th.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
But do they want lions or spartans? Because you can't have both.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Dude. We have people at our shop that are NOT members of ALPA. They are non-members and pay 1.5% dues instead of the standard 1.85%.
Imagine. Assuming a 350k salary, the dues difference of .35% amounts to $1,225/yr or just $103 bucks per month. Who would turn their back on their own fellow members over $100 bucks per month.
Never underestimate the degree of cheap ass a US airline pilot can be.
phill1174
Well-Known Member
You’d be surprised. I seen a few with ALPA. I haven’t seen any with the IPA and I’d probably get stuck by lightning before I do. When one hasn’t been screwed over by the company, don’t understand how bad the company can screw them, or never needed the union’s help before one has the mentality of “I’m just wasting blank amount of money every month paying union dues”. That mentality is how some places keep entire workgroups union free.
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