How do you figure?United is having a pretty bad couple of weeks...
There's like maybe 15 people that are aware a contract of carriage even exists.How do you figure?
Passenger, wasn't aware of the contract of carriage. Then refused to listen uniformed crew instructions, then refused law enforcement instructions.
Gotcha. United.
How do you figure?
Passenger, wasn't aware of the contract of carriage. Then refused to listen uniformed crew instructions, then refused law enforcement instructions.
Gotcha. United.
Yeah, getting the guy down there and then pulling him off is a bad place to put yourself in.Seems United had an easy fix for this — "Sorry, Sir/Ma'am, but we're oversold and those who arrived early and boarded are now going to stay boarded. You're not on the plane, and it's staying that way."
Dragging off an already seated passenger? Real amateur hour.
Sorry dude, being military has 0 to do with this.I understand that you're military, or prior military and used to immediately following orders, without question. But as a civilian, the person in question probably wasn't. He seemed to really want/need to get home. Who knows what exactly was happening in his life, that mandated him needing/wanting to get back home asap.
In this case you can be right, and still be wrong. At least according to social media. Like in last weeks yoga pants incident.
I have no easy fix to the situation. But vinegar and honey and all that.
Yeah, getting the guy down there and then pulling him off is a bad place to put yourself in.
However, I wasnt there, maybe thats what the agent was given to work with.
Jeesh... yeah. Guess I need to read to the end.And, yet, that same passenger, now bloodied, is shown reboarding and taking a seat. At least that's what I got from reading the article. And if that's the case, why all the drama removing him to begin with?
As I said, real amateur hour.
Guess it was a crew that was needing a ride for the next mornings flight?
According to the article. The flight was apparently overbooked by 1. That was solved and pax were boarded. But then a need to get a crew to that destination now resulted in 4 more volunteers to been needed to deplane in order to make room for them. With not enough volunteers, pax including this guy were voluntold.
Sucks because this particular guy had nothing to do with anything or with UALs staffing issues down range. All he had done is buy a ticket, show up, board his flight, be calmly seated awaiting the flight he paid for, and no one would've remembered who he was under any normal circumstance.
But an apparently last minute need to send 4 crew needing a ride to the destination, now randomly became this guy's problem? That's UALs staffing problem, not his, or any other fare-paying pax (am assuming there no non-rev's or something to choose from). The concept of customer service needs a look here, as they shouldn't have to be paying the price, so to speak. A staffing need by the airline isn't an emergency that should get paying pax forcibly bumped. Volunteers? Sure. But after that, find another way, especially since the initial pax overbooking had apparently already been solved, and now was created again.
According to the article. The flight was apparently overbooked by 1. That was solved and pax were boarded. But then a need to get a crew to that destination now resulted in 4 more volunteers to been needed to deplane in order to make room for them. With not enough volunteers, pax including this guy were voluntold.
Sucks because this particular guy had nothing to do with anything or with UALs staffing issues down range. All he had done is buy a ticket, show up, board his flight, be calmly seated awaiting the flight he paid for, and no one would've remembered who he was under any normal circumstance.
But an apparently last minute need to send 4 crew needing a ride to the destination, now randomly became this guy's problem? That's UALs staffing problem, not his, or any other fare-paying pax (am assuming there no non-rev's or something to choose from). The concept of customer service needs a look here, as they shouldn't have to be paying the price, so to speak. A staffing need by the airline isn't an emergency that should get paying pax forcibly bumped. Volunteers? Sure. But after that, find another way, especially since the initial pax overbooking had apparently already been solved, and now was created again.
I understand that you're military, or prior military and used to immediately following <lawful> orders, without question<see lawful ordersUnited said airline representatives chose four passengers at random when no volunteers agreed to leave the overbooked flight. They requested law enforcement assistance when one of them refused to leave.. But as a civilian, the person in question probably wasn't. He seemed to really want/need to get home. Who knows what exactly was happening in his life, that mandated him needing/wanting to get back home asap.
In this case you can be right, and still be wrong. At least according to social media. Like in last weeks yoga pants incident.
I have no easy fix to the situation. But vinegar and honey and all that.
According to the article. The flight was apparently overbooked by 1. That was solved and pax were boarded. But then a need to get a crew to that destination now resulted in 4 more volunteers to been needed to deplane in order to make room for them. With not enough volunteers, pax including this guy were voluntold.
Sucks because this particular guy had nothing to do with anything or with UALs staffing issues down range. All he had done is buy a ticket, show up, board his flight, be calmly seated awaiting the flight he paid for, and no one would've remembered who he was under any normal circumstance.
But an apparently last minute need to send 4 crew needing a ride to the destination, now randomly became this guy's problem? That's UALs staffing problem, not his, or any other fare-paying pax (am assuming there no non-rev's or something to choose from). The concept of customer service needs a look here, as they shouldn't have to be paying the price, so to speak. A staffing need by the airline isn't an emergency that should get paying pax forcibly bumped. Volunteers? Sure. But after that, find another way, especially since the initial pax overbooking had apparently already been solved, and now was created again.