Hard Landing

[JEP]

How hard does one have to land to buckle an airframe? Everyone seemed fine. Serious question….is that a death wish for a pilot or more a carpet dance for the crew…? Assuming it’s a complete write-off.

 

[Roger Roger]

This is not the first time one of these has had similar damage due to aggressive de-rotating. I think Omni did something very similar

 

[Baronman]

This is not the first time one of these has had similar damage due to aggressive de-rotating. I think Omni did something very similar

ANA did it (on video) in Tokyo. Hard landing and bounced off the nose gear which probably caused the damage.

Crew will probably just be “retrained” provided they weren’t acting recklessly or negligently.

 

[///AMG]

Looks like pointless dent removal payday to me

 

[GypsyPilot]

Here’s the link:

Hard Landing Buckles 767 Fuselage - AVweb

United Airlines’ oldest Boeing 767 is likely a write-off after the fuselage skin buckled and tore in a hard landing at Houston on July 29. The aircraft arrived from Newark at 10:34 a.m. with 193 passengers and 11 crew, none of whom were injured. Circumstances of the landing have not been...

www.avweb.com

Crazy that happened with a 767-300. It’s a pretty forgiving airplane.

 

[Skåning]

 

[Skåning]

Apparently another UA 767 in IAD today. Gear so mangled it couldn’t be towed (allegedly)

 

[ASpilot2be]

This is not the first time one of these has had similar damage due to aggressive de-rotating. I think Omni did something very similar

Was it this?

The Aviation Herald

Aviation Herald - News, Incidents and Accidents in Aviation

avherald.com

 

[Roger Roger]

Was it this?

The Aviation Herald

Aviation Herald - News, Incidents and Accidents in Aviation

avherald.com

I think that was it, looks like I had the wrong ACMI carrier

 

[Stone Cold]

@Atlas guys have similar experience.

 

[roundout]

United and delta have both done this to 757s in the last about 3 years.

 

[roundout]

Apparently another UA 767 in IAD today. Gear so mangled it couldn’t be towed (allegedly)

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Wait another one??

 

[DE727UPS]

I found the 76 easy to land. The 75, some guys had a slight derotation just prior to touchdown and it would squeak on. I never got the hang of that. I would just try to land it as flat as I could without hitting the nosewheel first. When I could get that to happen with a minimal sink rate I got great landings. The 76 you just flare a tad from your approach sink rate at the right time while pulling the power off and you couldn't go wrong. I didn't get many squeakers on the 76 but didn't get many bad landings, either. I know I slammed it on pretty good a few times by basically not flaring. Embarrassing, but didn't hurt anything. Loved the 76.

 

[Boris Badenov]

This is not the first time one of these has had similar damage due to aggressive de-rotating. I think Omni did something very similar

They (we at the time, I guess) certainly did. IMS, somebody was on IOE, can't remember which somebody. In any case, autospoilers deferred, bounced landing, spoilers manually deployed while back in the air, kerplop, apologies all around. They finally got it back in the air, but the rumor was they only fixed it to avoid having a hull loss on the record, ie it was not economical to fix.

 

[bLizZuE]

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I’d just like to point out: it wasn’t designed to do that.

 

[bLizZuE]

Apparently another UA 767 in IAD today. Gear so mangled it couldn’t be towed (allegedly)

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Heard it closed the runway for quite some time.

 

[bLizZuE]

Wait another one??

They come in three’s? I am flying a 57-300 for the first time in over a year next week. Hopefully you won’t see this again on Wednesday.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

So is it 24 yr old noobs or a 64 yr old pushing for 67? Gotta know which demographic to blame.

 

[juxtapilot]

They come in three’s? I am flying a 57-300 for the first time in over a year next week. Hopefully you won’t see this again on Wednesday.

Delta had a hard landing in ATL resulting in a burst tire—resulting in an evacuation… still trying to figure out that one..

757 Burst Tire

 

[///AMG]

Put these kids in the 73 for a while. I have it on good authority that it is not possible to break it. You wanna know what's left after WWIII? Cockroaches and 737's, that's what.