Yessir. Valentine, then Dickinson, then the MSP-based Thief River Falls run.
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Yessir. Valentine, then Dickinson, then the MSP-based Thief River Falls run.
jhugz
Guppy gear swinger
Cool. I did the TVF route back when it was an Omaha Route.
OMA-FSD-FAR-TVF-FAR-FSD-OMA
When it switched to MSP I opened up the route. It was still going to Fargo back then even out of MSP.
Then I did the Valentine route, GFK route for a year, and then the Dallas Ad Hoc.
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
Many pilots with just enough experience get caught in the trap of, "I'll just ask ATC to help me out with vectors if I can't see and avoid". Unfortunately ATC simply can't help you out sometimes, and it always seems to happen at the most inoportune times to boot. If you don't have an iPad with some sort of nexrad wx, you are robbing yourself of an important tool for single pilot IFR. That being said, I have a stratus for sale if anyone is interested 
bkey79
Well-Known Member
[QUOTE="chrisreedrules, post: 2505286, member: 25550/] If you don't have an iPad with some sort of nexrad wx, you are robbing yourself of an important tool for single pilot IFR. [/QUOTE]
NEXRAD is delayed, sometimes up to 15 minutes. My plane is equipped with both NEXRAD and weather RADAR, and NEXRAD will show me going through the nastiest stuff imaginable, while RADAR shows light returns. NEXRAD has gotten some people in just as bad of a situation as having nothing at all.
That being said, I never forget to have my stratus on and handy...
NEXRAD is delayed, sometimes up to 15 minutes. My plane is equipped with both NEXRAD and weather RADAR, and NEXRAD will show me going through the nastiest stuff imaginable, while RADAR shows light returns. NEXRAD has gotten some people in just as bad of a situation as having nothing at all.
That being said, I never forget to have my stratus on and handy...
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
NEXRAD is delayed, sometimes up to 15 minutes. My plane is equipped with both NEXRAD and weather RADAR, and NEXRAD will show me going through the nastiest stuff imaginable, while RADAR shows light returns. NEXRAD has gotten some people in just as bad of a situation as having nothing at all.
That being said, I never forget to have my stratus on and handy...[/QUOTE]
Oh I know... It is just another tool for the flight case. Not the "fix all" that some people seem to think it is.
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
NEXRAD is delayed, sometimes up to 15 minutes. My plane is equipped with both NEXRAD and weather RADAR, and NEXRAD will show me going through the nastiest stuff imaginable, while RADAR shows light returns. NEXRAD has gotten some people in just as bad of a situation as having nothing at all.
That being said, I never forget to have my stratus on and handy...[/QUOTE]
Oh I know... It is just another tool for the flight case. Not the "fix all" that some people seem to think it is.
jhugz
Guppy gear swinger
Many pilots with just enough experience get caught in the trap of, "I'll just ask ATC to help me out with vectors if I can't see and avoid". Unfortunately ATC simply can't help you out sometimes, and it always seems to happen at the most inoportune times to boot. If you don't have an iPad with some sort of nexrad wx, you are robbing yourself of an important tool for single pilot IFR. That being said, I have a stratus for sale if anyone is interested
NEXRAD is delayed, sometimes up to 15 minutes. My plane is equipped with both NEXRAD and weather RADAR, and NEXRAD will show me going through the nastiest stuff imaginable, while RADAR shows light returns. NEXRAD has gotten some people in just as bad of a situation as having nothing at all.
That being said, I never forget to have my stratus on and handy...[/QUOTE]
There's tactical and big picture. Radar and XM. They both have a mission, and if you use them correctly, you're golden. If don't you're in for a ride.
If I had to choose one or the other I'd choose XM any day of the week. It gives the "big picture" and even though it's delay up to 15 minutes, give the weather a wider berth and you'll be fine. Picking through lines with XM isn't fun. It doesn't update quick enough to allow you to shoot the gap. XM is the same picture ATC is getting so keep that in mind when you ask them for vectors in weather.
That's what you want radar for. Using radar, especially old junky radar for planning more then 50 miles down the road is a PITA.
...and I'll leave you guys with some fun photos.
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jhugz
Guppy gear swinger
Speaking of all things freight where's @jtrain609 to tell us how freight dawgy dawg he was sitting in the right seat of a navajo?
Stinger
Well-Known Member
Are you flying in and out of the South Texas area?
Not the case for Terminal facilities like towers and tracons. Our radar displays show a live view of the weather that comes right off the ASR sites. The centers I believe do have a delayed weather picture.
Tommay85
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The Carribean and VZ. Particularly around VZ, green can wreck your plane (not learned first hand thankfully)
Avalon781ML
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Dooood.... when your radar is monochrome green all weather is green!
somewhereupthere
Well-Known Member
One option is to ask if they have lightning strike data available... Request vectoring around areas experiencing lightning... sometimes this helps
somewhereupthere
Well-Known Member
You should talk to the folks who work on your equipment. It's still limited, regardless of ASR-9 or -11.
somewhereupthere
Well-Known Member
Once had an ATP/A&P/IA tell me this exact same thing about my beloved DHC6
somewhereupthere
Well-Known Member
WHAH???
Um.. I've known of pilots being asked to resign, and ultimately terminated because the med crew expressed "unease" with the pilot's willingness to fly in "seasoned" conditions.
I don't tell the med crew how to do their jobs and keep the PT alive.. they shouldn't tell me how to fly the plane. Oh, and CAMTS requiring a med crewmember to be in the cockpit on non PT legs... I cry FOUL. more a detriment than good.. they know NOTHING of flying.. stick to the IVs and Charting
EIR
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Relax, bud. Every flight is conducted in a safe manor. Med crews don't sit up front in a Lear, maybe in your King Air or Pilatus. If the med crew reports a flight crew for some bumps when the wx is deteriorating, and the crew is asked to resign, then there are some serious issues in your management department. The wx isn't all CAVU. Before every flight, the wx conditions will be briefed with the entire crew.
Blackhawk
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From my bad old days of flying freight many years ago (pre-GPS).
Going into CSG at night. On the ILS.
IMC. Flashes all over. ADF needle starts to go crazy. Approach says they see extreme precipitation on the approach a few miles ahead. Screw this. I'm not paid enough.
Go missed. Get vectors around the worst of it.
Ask to go off frequency so I can talk to FSS and find out if I can get to my next stop.
Getting bounced all over (no autopilot of course), I talk to FSS. Find out a good route to my next destination. Look at the map, SWAG the distance. Do the math in my head to see if I have enough gas since I did not get any at CSG. Go back to approach and tell him where I wanted to go. Ask for vectors around the worst of it.
Going into CSG at night. On the ILS.
IMC. Flashes all over. ADF needle starts to go crazy. Approach says they see extreme precipitation on the approach a few miles ahead. Screw this. I'm not paid enough.
Go missed. Get vectors around the worst of it.
Ask to go off frequency so I can talk to FSS and find out if I can get to my next stop.
Getting bounced all over (no autopilot of course), I talk to FSS. Find out a good route to my next destination. Look at the map, SWAG the distance. Do the math in my head to see if I have enough gas since I did not get any at CSG. Go back to approach and tell him where I wanted to go. Ask for vectors around the worst of it.
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