Thunderstorm avoidance

UAL747400 said:
We do, but I'm pretty sure I've posted too much on the facetubes about that place... :) Even if I delete it, it's been verbably expressed how dumb that "flow" is! Especially since UPS was drafting something up at the time and we gave them the finger... UGH! :)

AAY would have to be desperate enough/short enough to tolerate my mouth to hire me and promote me. haha
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I'm sure they are.
 
UAL747400 said:
We do, but I'm pretty sure I've posted too much on the facetubes about that place... :) Even if I delete it, it's been verbably expressed how dumb that "flow" is! Especially since UPS was drafting something up at the time and we gave them the finger... UGH! :)

AAY would have to be desperate enough/short enough to tolerate my mouth to hire me and promote me. haha
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I am sure I can guess who spread the UPS drafting a letter rumor lol. Same guy who said SWA was considering a flow...
 
Lol dude is it just a commonality that all AMF pilots grasp on hopes and dreams of rumors spread by others?
 
Inverted said:
Lol dude is it just a commonality that all AMF pilots grasp on hopes and dreams of rumors spread by others?
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Isn't that everywhere!?
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Haha
 
No, my last 3 jobs have not included grasping at straws that don't exist. It's cool though, cause AMF is gettin -200 freighters too!!
 
jhugz said:
I thought picking around thunderstorms was easier in the 402 then the metro. 402 you were low enough to dodge the rain shafts. In the metro, pick an altitude where you're not going to pick up ice, and buckle up. If the "weather" was a level 3 or less, I didn't even deviate around it. Mid level 3 or Higher I would try to find the soft spot. It's like anything else in aviation, find a comfort level and build on it slowly with experience. Now in the Pilatus (flying EMS) I have to fly like a RJ pilot, if I scare the medcrew, I probably won't have a job. I miss freight...
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Did the same thing and can attest. The 402 in a storm was much less of a "gulp and swallow" event than the Metro, save for the wings flapping because of the Taft-Tanks on the tips. And now I fly a PC-12 charter/corporate and shake my head every time I have to tell pax it'll "be a bit bumpy" coming in when it's breezy. You people know nothing of bumps! Sometimes I miss my freight days...
 

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Bamaaviator said:
These weather events are rare, but in this scenario, there's 2 options. Well I would probably say 3 options. Fly through the squall, delay operation, or cancel. I would assume the company wouldn't want to hear the third option. Do companies give you much leeway in making the go/no go decision? Or do they put pressure on you to get out there and fly regardless of the weather? I would imagine this scenario would require a tough decision for any freight pilot to make. Do many companies honor your request to delay or cancel if you really know that it's not safe? I'm aware that I could be naive here, which is why I'm asking you guys. I don't do this type of flying, but would like to some day. Please fill me in on this.
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4 options... at least when flying west into an easterly moving squall... fly to somewhere just east of the line, land, wait an hour, take off again and continue on. And, no, these kinds of Wx events are not rare. Often they occur every few days for months on end.
 
Lurie389 said:
Did the same thing and can attest. The 402 in a storm was much less of a "gulp and swallow" event than the Metro, save for the wings flapping because of the Taft-Tanks on the tips. And now I fly a PC-12 charter/corporate and shake my head every time I have to tell pax it'll "be a bit bumpy" coming in when it's breezy. You people know nothing of bumps! Sometimes I miss my freight days...
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That's what you get for choosing to fly a glider with a PT6 up front. ;) Other than that, and the service ceiling that tops out right at the top of the Wx, it is such a sweet plane.
 
Lurie389 said:
Did the same thing and can attest. The 402 in a storm was much less of a "gulp and swallow" event than the Metro, save for the wings flapping because of the Taft-Tanks on the tips. And now I fly a PC-12 charter/corporate and shake my head every time I have to tell pax it'll "be a bit bumpy" coming in when it's breezy. You people know nothing of bumps! Sometimes I miss my freight days...
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I wouldn't be able to fly a 402 in that without thinking of the ones that have had engines separate because Cessna was too good to use a tubular steel engine mount like the rest of the world does.
 
Roger Roger said:
I wouldn't be able to fly a 402 in that without thinking of the ones that have had engines separate because Cessna was too good to use a tubular steel engine mount like the rest of the world does.
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Sometimes you really don't want to know that much about your airplane. Downsides of that A&P.
 
Lurie389 said:
Did the same thing and can attest. The 402 in a storm was much less of a "gulp and swallow" event than the Metro, save for the wings flapping because of the Taft-Tanks on the tips. And now I fly a PC-12 charter/corporate and shake my head every time I have to tell pax it'll "be a bit bumpy" coming in when it's breezy. You people know nothing of bumps! Sometimes I miss my freight days...
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Encore guy? That used to be my old route.
 
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