Today in History - Nine years ago

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Status:Accident investigation report completed and information captured
Date:Saturday 8 March 2014
Time:08:11
Type:
Silhouette image of generic B772 model; specific model in this crash may look slightly different

Boeing 777-2H6ER
Operator:Malaysia Airlines
Registration:9M-MRO
MSN:28420/404
First flight:2002-05-14 (11 years 10 months)
Total airframe hrs:53471
Cycles:7526
Engines:2 Rolls-Royce Trent 892B
Crew:Fatalities: 12 / Occupants: 12
Passengers:Fatalities: 227 / Occupants: 227
Total:Fatalities: 239 / Occupants: 239
Aircraft damage:Destroyed
Aircraft fate:Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Location:within Indian Ocean (
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Indian Ocean)
Phase:En route (ENR)
Nature:International Scheduled Passenger
Departure airport:Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KUL/WMKK), Malaysia
Destination airport:Beijing-Capital International Airport (PEK/ZBAA), China
Flightnumber:MH370
Narrative:
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia to Beijing, China was reported missing on March 8, 2014. There were 227 passengers and 12 crew members on board.
The Boeing 777-2H6ER took off from Kuala Lumpur International Airport's runway 32R at 00:41. At 00:42 the flight was cleared to climb to FL180 and was issued a direct track by Lumpur Approach to the IGARI waypoint. MH370 was then transferred to Lumpur Radar and was cleared to climb to FL250. At 00:50 the flight was further cleared to the planned cruising altitude of FL350. MH370 reported maintaining FL350 at 01:07. Last radio contact was at 01:19 when the Kuala Lumpur Radar controller instructed the flight to contact the radio frequency of Ho Chi Minh Air Traffic Control Centre, Vietnam: "Malaysian Three Seven Zero contact Ho Chi Minh 120 decimal 9 Good Night". One of the flight crew members replied: "Good night, Malaysian Three Seven Zero."
At 01:21 MH370 was observed on the radar screen of the Kuala Lumpur Radar controller as it passed over waypoint IGARI. Nine seconds later the radar label for MH370 disappeared from the radar screen. The transponder was switched off.
At 01:38 Ho Chi Minh ATCC contacted Kuala Lumpur ATCC on the whereabouts of MH370. Kuala Lumpur ATCC contacted the airline's operations centre, Singapore ACC, Hong Kong ACC, and Phnom Penh ACC, failing to establish the location of MH370.
Meanwhile, the airplane flew in a westerly direction back over peninsular Malaysia before turning northwest. Primary radar data showed that the aircraft tracked along the Malacca Strait. During this time the aircraft passed close to waypoints VAMPI, MEKAR, NILAM and possibly IGOGU along a section of airway N571. The final primary radar fix occurred at 02:22.
From then on seven handshakes between the aircraft's SATCOM system and the Inmarsat ground station were recorded. Last satellite data was recorded at 08:11 Malaysian time.

Initially search efforts focused on the South China Sea area. On 24 March 2014 further analysis of the Inmarsat satellite data indicated that MH370 flew south and ended its flight in the southern part of the Indian Ocean.
A surface search was conducted of probable impact areas along an arc, identified by calculations based on Inmarsat data. The search was carried out from 18 March - 28 April 2014. This search effort was undertaken by an international fleet of aircraft and ships with the search areas over this time progressing generally from an initial southwest location along the arc in a north-easterly direction. No debris associated with MH370 was identified either from the surface search, acoustic search or from the ocean floor search in the vicinity of acoustic detections, which were initially believed to have been from the pingers on the flight recorders. The ocean floor search was completed on 28 May 2014.
On June 26 the ATSB published a new search area based on refinements to the analysis of both the flight and satellite data. The priority area of approximately 60,000 km2 extends along the arc for 650 km in a northeast direction from Broken Ridge, an underwater ridge. The width of the priority search area is 93 km.

On July 29, 2015 a flapperon washed ashore on the French island of Réunion in the Indian Ocean. On August 5 it was established to have been from MH370.


Probable Cause:

Tthe Team is unable to determine the real cause for the disappearance of MH370.
 
crazy it was 9 years ago...(I'll say it again next year when it hits 10)

still baffling
 
Pilot suicide still seems to be the most likely cause to me. I can't envision a fire or other electrical/mechanical failure that would have immediately knocked out all comms and manual control of the airplane, but allowed the airplane to continue to fly on for another 8 hours. Even the worst fires we've seen with Swiss, South African, and UPS 6 still allowed the crew enough time to fire off a mayday.

I do hope they find it someday.
 
Pilot suicide still seems to be the most likely cause to me. I can't envision a fire or other electrical/mechanical failure that would have immediately knocked out all comms and manual control of the airplane, but allowed the airplane to continue to fly on for another 8 hours. Even the worst fires we've seen with Swiss, South African, and UPS 6 still allowed the crew enough time to fire off a mayday.

I do hope they find it someday.
While that may be the case, I think it’s worth pointing out that if you’re referring to the evidence presented about his home flight simulator setup and the saved flight data, that was found to have been pretty much entirely bogus. Outside of that, nothing in his life would point to him doing something like that.

It’s MH370 though so anyone’s guess is as good as any.
 
The transponder was turned off. Not like lost signal, was turned off. Then it crashes in the most remote part of the world it could conceivably have reached with the fuel on board? Be serious. Absent any contradictory evidence, someone did it deliberately. Probably the Captain, from everything I've read.

Or, I mean, sure, Aliens. Why not?
 
While that may be the case, I think it’s worth pointing out that if you’re referring to the evidence presented about his home flight simulator setup and the saved flight data, that was found to have been pretty much entirely bogus. Outside of that, nothing in his life would point to him doing something like that.

It’s MH370 though so anyone’s guess is as good as any.

Nah, I’m not. I had the same software, did all sorts of stuff that would look wacky to the random observer, I’m sure. It’s just the only explanation that makes the slightest bit of sense to me, regardless of what he was doing in FSX on his home PC.
 
The transponder was turned off. Not like lost signal, was turned off. Then it crashes in the most remote part of the world it could conceivably have reached with the fuel on board? Be serious. Absent any contradictory evidence, someone did it deliberately. Probably the Captain, from everything I've read.

Or, I mean, sure, Aliens. Why not?
You mean you're discrediting the theory of 3 Russian hijackers? It's totally plausible, create a distraction in the lav, guy climbs into the E/E bay, plugs in his laptop and overrides the flight systems, while rendering the pilots input useless.

/sarcasm tag

The only thing that makes sense with that theory is, Russia was invading Crimea and wanted a distraction.

The two USA AWACS was a pretty comical theory as well.
 
I think it would have been very easy for the Malaysians to cover up any evidence that they did find about his motives, in an effort to save face.

I suppose they could but what exactly are they going to cover up? All the stuff that usually goes into that analysis, like bank and phone records, living history, travel record….all of it was released in the report.
 
A rapid fire, oxygen leak fueled in the cockpit and/or the avionics bay area could have occurred incapacitating the crew and selectively disabling avionics components setting the aircraft on its long journey into the Indian Ocean until fuel exhaustion. Egyptair flight 667 had a similar fate as the scenario described but fortunately was on the ground at the gate. There are videos of the incident. The speed at which the fire spread and breached the fuselage (huge gaping hole on the FO side) was staggering, despite ARFF arriving within 3mins !!

The turn at the FIR handout could have been the pilots last desperate effort to turn around and land the plane, but fire + smoke + decompression would have overcome them very quickly. that is a very plausible scenario, my #1 theory.

As with everything everybody has some obscure weird and bizarre theories, it's probably very simple and I'm convinced that one day we will discover the main wreckage (hopefully large parts) and who knows, not a lot of oxidation occurs at the depth of the suspected crash area + a lots of avionics are dipped into resins and epoxies possibly preserving CVR/DFDR data, unless the fire cut off the data stream early.


Link to the full final report below.

 
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A rapid fire, oxygen leak fueled in the cockpit and/or the avionics bay area could have occurred incapacitating the crew and selectively disabling avionics components setting the aircraft on its long journey into the Indian Ocean until fuel exhaustion. Egyptair flight 667 had a similar fate as the scenario described but fortunately was on the ground at the gate. There are videos of the incident. The speed at which the fire spread and breached the fuselage (huge gaping hole on the FO side) was staggering (despite ARFF arriving within 3mins !).

The turn at the FIR handout could have been the pilots last desperate effort to turn around and land the plane, but fire + smoke + decompression would have overcome them very quickly. that is a very plausible scenario, my #1 theory.

As with everything everybody has some obscure weird and bizarre theories, it's probably very simple and I'm convinced that one day we will discover the main wreckage (hopefully large parts) and who knows, not a lot of oxidation occurs at the depth of the suspected crash area + a lots of avionics are dipped into resins and epoxy possibly preserving CVR/DFDR data, unless the fire cut off the data stream early.


Link to the full final report below.


The satellite data is clear. The plane flew into the southern ocean in the middle of nowhere for hours. There is no explanation that doesn’t involve foul play here.
 
Again, the Inmarsat data is conclusive.
The Immarsat data just shows the most plausible path of the aircraft and indeed is the most accurate path/position reporting that we have so far, what it doesn't tell you is why, I'm not sure of your logic here ??
 
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