zmiller4
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Old enough to be far, far outside Matt Gaetz’s adoring attention and travel benefits.
Oh dang.
How dare you criticize him for what his sex life was like as single man!
Old enough to be far, far outside Matt Gaetz’s adoring attention and travel benefits.
What are they going to do? Arrange a phone call so you can both "talk it out"?
I've been less than impressed by pro standards at most of the places where I've worked. It seems like it's more about keeping folks out of the chiefs office than it is correcting a bad actor.
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Old enough to be far, far outside Matt Gaetz’s adoring attention and travel benefits.
This had got to be embarrassing for the Libs. They've been constantly ridiculing and deriding QAnon and dismissing it as a baseless conspiracy theory. But it turns out their truly is child trafficking being done by members of Congress who are close allies of a former President!!!
It turns out that there was one (1) element of truth in the whole thing after all, I suppose.This had got to be embarrassing for the Libs. They've been constantly ridiculing and deriding QAnon and dismissing it as a baseless conspiracy theory. But it turns out their truly is child trafficking being done by members of Congress who are close allies of a former President!!!
Same.
In my situation, there was a corrective phone call, a stern chat, but the behavior is still prevalent.
Going straight up the flagpole next time and I will happily fill speciality coffee orders and a delicious assortment of Dunkin Donuts to the hearing and let the chips fall where they may. I can’t tell you how many other people hav been affected downstream because I did the ‘right thing’.
He'd just go talk crap about the FO with his buddies (words like "snowflake" or "Karen") and spread it throughout the Captain ranks. FOs aren't the only ones who keep a 'list'.
As an FO I have to decide is it worth it to speak up, or is it easier to just avoid that pilot in the future.
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During a SNAFU at the cargo gig we found ourselves overnighting in a city with limited hotel rooms. Best idea was to get two bedroom apartment style suites, three of them. Two captains rooming together, the two fo's, and another for the two engineers.
The other engineer refused to room with me, he said he could not, since he is a Muslim and I'm Jewisj.
A small "airline", we didn't have pro stands or even HR. But our owner, was a very rich Jew.
My experience with this at XOJET was the exact same. My gut feeling is to just call HR next time. I'm not sure how I'd do it really. I'd think that a call to the CPO or even just a scheduler and saying
"Yeah hi but I have to call out for this trip I can't complete it."
"Oh why"
"Oh the guy I am flying with is a real bigot. It is making me extremely uncomfortable and I no longer feel safe at work. Mostly he is just saying terrible things about Jewish people and I am Jewish"
Pretty sure the Crew Scheduling line is recorded.
I’m very sorry you went through that.
Next time, in my circumstance and especially one like yours, if we’re at an outstation or at a base, we’re done and let the where they may.
I was told, “Well, if you would have left him in “X” that’s a director’s-level event and these things don’t happen very often“. But once i learned it wasn’t his first situation and that he’s still out there doing it, I feel guilty for helping enable the behavior because everyone knows about it, but it kept getting “worked out”. And now I’m tired of flying with shell-shocked copilots in a small base because I could have done way more about it.
During a SNAFU at the cargo gig, a very much merit based upgrade company, we found ourselves overnighting in a city with limited hotel rooms. Best idea was to get two bedroom apartment style suites, three of them. Two captains rooming together, the two fo's, and another for the two engineers.
The other engineer refused to room with me, he said he could not, since he is a Muslim and I'm Jewish.
A small "airline", we didn't have pro stands or even HR. But our owner, was a very rich Jew.
He failed his next PC and was let go.
I’m aware of no such religious restriction that would prevent me from rooming in a case like that.
Btw, Islamically speaking, a Muslim guy can marry a Jewish woman (though not the other way around).
I’m very sorry you went through that.
Next time, in my circumstance and especially one like yours, if we’re at an outstation or at a base, we’re done and let the where they may.
I was told, “Well, if you would have left him in “X” that’s a director’s-level event and these things don’t happen very often“. But once i learned it wasn’t his first situation and that he’s still out there doing it, I feel guilty for helping enable the behavior because everyone knows about it, but it kept getting “worked out”. And now I’m tired of flying with shell-shocked copilots in a small base because I could have done way more about it.
The guy that did this to me at XOJET is now at SWA.
Feeling guilty myself.
Almost makes me feel like the whole do the right thing and talk to the person, then pro stands first is something that was done just to protect bigots.
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Would you then be considered an outcast within ALPA?
There was a FO at VX who recorded his CA on a cellphone doing an epic meltdown. He took it straight to mgt and I do believe that CA was let go (resigned).
I just wonder if pilots decide to skip pro stans and go to mgt, is that a stigma? Paging @SlumTodd_Millionaire since he is the ALPA expert. Would a pilot in this case get fair representation down the road if he needed it? Would ALPA leadership see him as a snitch? Tanked a chance if any ALPA position in the future? Etc etc? Just wondering your take.
That's what the rumor was @Maximilian_Jenius , that the pilot is actually a liberal. I have no clue if it's true, again just a rumor seen from a whatsapp pilot group.
Do you have any evidence to prove this or are you just giving oxygen to a baseless claim?
I’m aware of no such religious restriction that would prevent me from rooming in a case like that.
Btw, Islamically speaking, a Muslim guy can marry a Jewish woman (though not the other way around).