RetiredATLATC
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yes i will lump into one category....you can check out in ANY faa facility in three years....again, you can check out in ANY faa facility in three years. not everyone can, but it's not impossible...even at ATL TRACON. I've got a friend that checked out in SoCal TRACON in two years....he makes over 100K a year now...that's with going to the FAA Academy. A lot of it has to do with how much time you are getting on position and how much time you are alloted for each position...
I know you think ATL Tracon is the busiest facility in the u.s. or hardest or what not never said it was...but every other facility in the u.s. will try to claim the same thing really??. each facility uses diferent numbers to say...well...we do the most planes per day....another one...well we do the most VFR a/c per day...well we have the most complex airpsace....you can spin it however you wantso cause you work the most vfr's you're the busiest...I don't get the correlation. yes ATL Airport does the most operations in the U.S out of any control tower, you have four parallel runways, or five, you also have one of the most delays, if not the most delays out of any airport in the country. Get your facts straight sport ATL is 18th worst, not even close to being as bad as you wanted to make it out to be. http://www.avoiddelays.com/worst-offenders/most-delayed-arrival-airports.asp
Throw the BS flag about a new hire getting checked out in 8 months at a level 12 tower never said that's why I said BS...it happened...it will happen again...he makes 100K a year. it could also take a new hire a lot longer to check out in a level 12 tower and other new hires will also wash out...it has happened...it will continue to happen. for you to tell someone that they can't make 100K NEVER said it couldn't happen, but it is so rare and you are blowing smoke up the majority of the folks who will not rears in three years is asinine, because they can...it depends on where you go and if you have what it takes to do the job wait didn't you say you could get checked out ANYWHERE in three years..not it depends, etc?. do not tell me to lump everyone in one mold when you just did telling people they can't make 100K in 3 years.
The train a monkey to do this job is an expression...if you read it literally you are right, it is asinine...if you have a personality, you will see what I wrote for what it is....
not tony robbins either...but not miserable like you perceive to be...most of your posts fill this forum with all the negativitey about this job....and then you bash someone for showing the positive things of the job and encouraging people...I didn't come out attacking you, I just presented a true account of what is possible in the faa.
I'm not in management...I also don't have the hate management mindset like you seem to have. it takes two to tango....there were faults on both sides...both natca and the faa...if you can't see that you are naive.
Atl tracon works more planes in 3 hours than a lot of facilities...the ENTIRE TRACON...not an individual controller there. you don't work the entire tracon by yourself...the TRACON owns probably 500 times the airspace of a class B tower....of course the tracon will work more planes...a monkey could figure that out. you can't compare the complexity of a tracon to a tower or the traffic...it's two different things.
your post ranting about what I said looks ignorant and shows how miserable you are to tell everyone who reads these post that ANYONE can get checked out in three years IS ignorant. i'm sorry you feel so bad...i like my job...if i was miserable like you perceive to be, i would not be controlling planes, i don't care how much they paid me....
i'm giving these controllers the positive side of things...you give them the negative...yes...there are both positives and negatives of the job, well obviously not for you...they are just all negative from what you say.
Love the job, hate the IWR's, those that enacted them and I would love to know how NATCA did anything but fight for yours and my rights this entire time. The Union was railroaded and if you can't see that then I'm sorry.
BTW spell checking makes you look less ...ignor...ah nvm