I don't have the pay numbers in front of me, but I will tell you this.UMM---CJ....You out there?
I think you need to chime in on this one.
i'm no controller yet, but i've watched about 20 trainees go through the DYSIM. i'd say 1 or 2 stood out as far as handling traffic and dealing with unexpected situations. the rest were average. i realize it isnt real traffic, but some of the problems get ridiculously busy.
it depends on what facility you go to...i have seen a cti guy go through a level 12 tower in 8 months...he was making i believe to include locality pay 99K a year...that's after 8 months....yes you can make that much within 3 years....to be honest...you should be able to check out in any faa facility in 3 yearsOK I was almost asleep when i read this and I'm throwing the BS flag I don't know where you work, but it's not a busy level 12/13 IE ATL/A80...some people can't...but....just put some effort into itcause those that can't/haven't yet just aren't giving it the old college try...you can train a monkey to do this job.that has got to be the most asinine statement I have ever heard..you in manglement?..it's not that hard...don't listent people that say it is....it's hard if you make it hard...if you have the right mindest, you can do itTony Robbins???...very easy, no problems...if you don't have the mindest...you won't make it...simple as that....i couldn't make it as an accountant...i would hate my life...but i love controlling....it just comes down to what you are cut out for....again...3 years and you should be CPC in any faa facility....don't let anyone tell you otherwise.Meaning...???????[/quote]
You are right...everyone that doesn't get checked out in three years should what??? quit, feel worse about themselves cause you said they should be able to get checked out. You are definitely a manglement hack or someone who does NOT work at a BUSY level 12. How dare you lump everyone into one category. We have about 10 maybe out of the initial 30 (the rest fired)that showed up and NONE are checked out in more than two positions and have YEARS until they do...if ever. DO NOT lump everyone into one mold..especially when you DO NOT work at the busier facilities...you look ignorant.
Houston huh??? We work more planes in three hours than you do ALL day...sorry to rant but your ignorance pisses me off.
Perhaps this is the post you remember, though not at this site...I read somewhere on this site in which someone mapped out a payscale that showed someone making overk 100k jsut 3 years into being an ATC??? is this still true???
A80 has been running the equivalent traffic of a level 13, actually a 14 now, for about five years. When Marion Snakey came into power she told us, though we have been running that amount of traffic according to THEIR own traffic count rules/numbers, no one was going to get level 13 or 14 pay. Classic.whats this level 13 i keep hearing about. when did this come about? where can i find what the traffic count min/max is for the corresponding level.
Scroll to the bottom of this page and it'll have 3 payscales labeled that should give you and idea. http://faaimposedpayrules.natca.net/natca_pay_offer.htmBy the way, I've done some searching, and I can't find the old pay bands, though I'm very curious as to what they were - something more specific than '30 percent less'. Anybody have a link providing this information? Thanks to whoever can fill me in here!
I've got to agree with LG here... ATL, I've long appreciated you sharing your experience with us, but he's right, it is pretty heavily slanted towards the negative side of your job. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing -- I don't trust an assessment of any job that doesn't include the negatives, and given the current situation, I expect to hear plenty of bitterness and frustration on of the part of controllers -- but if I didn't take some of what you said with a grain of salt I'd expect most ATCS to have either blown their heads off or found their way into a padded room within their first year.not tony robbins either...but not miserable like you perceive to be...most of your posts fill this forum with all the negativitey about this job....and then you bash someone for showing the positive things of the job and encouraging people...
i'm giving these controllers the positive side of things...you give them the negative...