Chief Captain
Well-Known Member
They lived to regret not cutting that loss. At least 2 other people didn't have that opportunity.
Deep Thoughts: Pre-employment simulator checks
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They lived to regret not cutting that loss. At least 2 other people didn't have that opportunity.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
The second you start sim checks again at Delta as part of the interview, you’re gonna have TONS of “Harry’s Sim Prep” pop up.
“The complete guide and sim prep with actual simulator time to ace your Delta interview!” WE HAZ GUARANTEEZ!
Wardogg
Meat Popsicle
That's a very good point.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
No, I don’t. Again, he passed seven sim sessions, a check ride, and IOE. This idea that a basic sim eval would have stopped anything is pure fantasy.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
I forgot about this, but you’re absolutely right. The entire AirTran sim eval (when we were still doing them) was posted a dozen times over on WillFlyForFood. And there were places that did prep sessions where you could run the profile on a Fresca.
ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
Ideally that’s kind of the point right? You want people who want the job enough to study for it. Like, that’s part of the exercise. Are people willing to put in the effort to study any? Because I bet the people who do consequently do better in training and on the line.
Of course this is all nonsense until we study it and do some science. Which appears to not be a priority here. Our opinions on this don’t matter - we need to do some testing with HR and the training department and see what scheme works best, and none of it really matters if the training department is willing to push terrible pilots through.
CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
AQP tells you exactly what’s going to be on the LOE, and the training syllabus gives you the lesson plan for each event, and people still struggle.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
The incentive structure is a little different there. There’s a reason that people pay many thousands of dollars for interview prep. It’s a multi-million dollar opportunity. In AQP, people are pretty comfortable that they’ll be just fine.
bike21
9-5 Ruins Lives
It does suck when your partner hasn't even put in minimal effort/prep. Sure, you can probably pass without doing much but dayum it can get painful at times.
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BEEF SUPREME
Well-Known Member
Hold muh beer!
I thought you were on vacation?
There is zero talk of simulator checks ever coming to SouthernJets.
I think it would behoove you to decouple people from their employers. You don't speak for "907 Airways" any more than I speak for SouthernJets and if you read careful, I'm theoretically 'spitballing' some thoughts I was having.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Back. Left Monday, back Saturday. Kids only get one week off for spring break.
Don’t know what you mean about decouple. My comment on sim prep shops popping up applies for anyone. AA or UA could start a sim eval, and you’ll see sim prep companies prop up.
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It's t'woo it's t'woo.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
I had to look up the slang. Gross!
Never been on an interview team. Basing it solely on my interview at VX (the group interview part) and following up with others and sharing what our individual interviews were like, I realized that pilots interview like [4 letter s word]. Might be decent people, but terrible at telling stories. Or behaving what is considered normal. There’s a reason so many different prep companies exist.
That’s why I think if anyone starts sim checks again, you’re going to see sim prep shops prop up.
Chief Captain
Well-Known Member
So following your argument through, the next logical thing I guess you’ll say is that he was a competent pilot. Am I right?
There are cracks in the system, and he slipped through a bunch of them and made a hole in the ground.
