Cirrus's are KIP
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darrenf
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OldTownPilot
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http://www.cirrusdesign.com/perspective/fiki.aspx
The rumor of FIKI has been going around for a few months. Once they redid the frontpage with the curtain last friday, it was all but certain that the FIKI airplane was to be released today. They changed the trim packages too, they have the S, GS, ans GTS, and this new 'X-edition'.
The rumor of FIKI has been going around for a few months. Once they redid the frontpage with the curtain last friday, it was all but certain that the FIKI airplane was to be released today. They changed the trim packages too, they have the S, GS, ans GTS, and this new 'X-edition'.
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Its about time!
[edited because I'm retarded]
[edited because I'm retarded]
KNOWN ICING PROTECTION FOR THE CIRRUS SR22 HAS ARRIVED!
For a few years the Cirrus SR22 has been available with basic ice protection, meant only to buy pilots a bit of time and security while exiting an inadvertent icing encounter. It was never intended to allow pilots to deliberately penetrate visible moisture when icing is known or forecast. Too often, this lack of known icing capability hindered aircraft utility and dispatch rates.
2009 Cirrus SR22 and Turbo models are available with Cirrus Known Ice Protection - a TKS based weeping-wing anti-ice system that is equipped for certification* for Flight into Known Icing conditions (FIKI).
*Certification available, Q2 '09
The introduction of Cirrus Known Ice Protection was just a matter of time, and the minute you activate the robust, FIKI-approved TKS system, you’ll know it’s different from the basic ice protection on non-FIKI aircraft. Cirrus Known Ice Protection is an actual FAA re-certification of the SR22 and Turbo to permit pilots to legally fly into known icing conditions.
This certification required much more than adding an extra pump and fluid volume to the basic system. When activated, the Cirrus Known Ice Protection system thoroughly and evenly coats flight surfaces, including the vertical stabilizer and elevator tips, with anti-ice fluid. The FIKI-approved system incorporates new elements like an angle of attack indicator on the PFD, ice lights with split prisms on either side of the aircraft that illuminate both the wings and horizontal stabilizer in low-light conditions, and backup pumps and filters for fault-tolerant and redundant operation. With the two small nozzles positioned just below the windscreen, in addition to any fluid slung rearward by the propeller, the pilot is assured of an unobstructed forward view. Endurance for the system, now indicated on the Cirrus Perspective MFD, is increased to 150 minutes at Normal flow rates, 75 minutes when High is selected, and a new, Max rate has been added affording a total of 37.5 minutes of anti-ice capability, in two-minute bursts, during periods of higher accretion.
Cirrus again delivers increased aircraft safety and utility. With Known Ice Protection on the new SR22 and Turbo, pilots can now launch or continue flight with the peace of mind that they’re both legal and safe when icing is forecast or present.
The new SR22 and Turbo for 2009, bringing safety, security, value and style to a new altitude.
OldTownPilot
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They also added windscreen protection, elevator tip TKS, vertical stabilizer protection, and increased capacity.
Hardy a "lights and a gage" change.
Hardy a "lights and a gage" change.
TFaudree_ERAU
Mashin' dem buttons
Does Cirrus have to make their own acronyms for everything on their airplane? CAPS, KIP. Just call it a parachute and an anti-icing system for goodness sake. This is the marketing that sucks people into thinking a mediocre airplane is the next 747.
Legal FIKI or not, I ain't going into anything more than a thin layer with CAVU above and below.
Legal FIKI or not, I ain't going into anything more than a thin layer with CAVU above and below.
P210pilot
New Member
LOL On every other airplane including mine it's known as TKS. It's been around since WW II, I don't think Cirrus gets to change the name.
I will say from personal experience it works really well. Just turn it on before you get ice and don't run out of fluid. For a single like a 210 it's much better then boots IMO.
Now if they add 2 seats and pressurization it will be as capable as mine.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Seriously. I'm TFO (totally fin overwhelmed) by the RAL (ridiculous acronym lovin) goin on in the GAW (general aviation world). Like somehow as long as it's a TWA (three word acroynym) it makes your system somehow MLTTO (More legtimiate than the other). Give me a freaking break. Get a grip. I swear to God, we're on the cusp of the invention of the "tactical" light aircraft. It'll have an aluminum flashlight mounted on a picatinny rail over the cockpit and cost three times what the "standard" version costs.
bdhill1979
Gone West
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
Okay - potentially dumb question from the peanut gallery here....
Places like Flight Express use 210s for doing freight hauling and the 210 is basically a high-performance single.
As airplanes like the Cirrus get older and thus cheaper, would we ever see the day where they might take the back seats out and make a freight variant?
Places like Flight Express use 210s for doing freight hauling and the 210 is basically a high-performance single.
As airplanes like the Cirrus get older and thus cheaper, would we ever see the day where they might take the back seats out and make a freight variant?
ComplexHiAv8r
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:yeahthat:
OldTownPilot
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Sure in 20 years. I don't see any reason why not.
That is if they get unlimited airframe life with no major ADs for the next 20 years.
That is if they get unlimited airframe life with no major ADs for the next 20 years.
bdhill1979
Gone West
In 20 years my 210 will be 62 years old, and probably still flying.
Why mess with a good thing?
Just a W.A.G...but I'm going to say holes cut into the fuselage with hinged panels that cover the openings and probably some sort of latch mechanism to keep those panels secured against the fuselage. Maybe clear plexiglass placed onto these panels so the occupants can look outside.
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OldTownPilot
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Through the door
I think you can fold the seat foreward. If not you can stand where you put you feet for the back seat straight up and your head would be sticking out the door. Anyways, you are a freight dog, where there is a will there is a way.
A decked out 22 has about a 500 payload with full tanks (100 gallons). Striped down you could get another 100 pounds or so, that would be about 400 pounds of crap with a pilot and full tanks.
PGT
Well-Known Member
Through the door
I think you can fold the seat foreward. If not you can stand where you put you feet for the back seat straight up and your head would be sticking out the door. Anyways, you are a freight dog, where there is a will there is a way.
A decked out 22 has about a 500 payload with full tanks (100 gallons). Striped down you could get another 100 pounds or so, that would be about 400 pounds of crap with a pilot and full tanks.
Wouldn't it be 600 pounds of crap?
500 + stripped 100 = 600?
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