Allegiant Makes a Profit

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Ahh! This is how I change this!
At least somebody out there is making a profit. Good on them.

You've probably never heard of the most successful airline in America. That's because Allegiant Air is not for you. It eschews business travelers, daily flights, even service between major cities. Allegiant is the anti-airline, or as CEO Maurice Gallagher calls it, the "accidental airline."
But it's no accident that Allegiant's planes are full, profits soared 200% in the first quarter to $28.2 million, and the number of passengers is up 18% through May during the worst recession in recent memory. While competitors furiously cut back, Allegiant has boosted capacity 30%. The more intriguing question, though, is whether its rock-bottom fares, bootstrap approach, and focus on the places abandoned by the hubs and spokes are the new blueprint for building an airline in tough times.
Gallagher thought he had survived those already. When he took over Allegiant in July 2001, two months before 9/11 terrified passengers and froze credit markets, the JetBlue model -- tons of cash, a single hub, and brand-new planes -- was the way to go. The onetime ValuJet cofounder (who left the airline after its horrific Everglades crash in 1996 and subsequent merger with AirTran) moved his single plane to Las Vegas and set out to reinvent the business. Certified to fly MD-80s, aging warhorses of the skies, Allegiant could acquire used ones for as little as $4 million, one-tenth of what it costs Southwest to buy a new 737. With no access to capital, Gallagher didn't have much choice. But the plane is a gas-guzzler -- fuel costs can be as much as half of expenses -- so Allegiant couldn't afford an empty seat; keeping the planes full spread the cost across more passengers. "We needed a strategy that was low cost and could make money from day one," Gallagher says. "Slowly, we figured it out: Go where they ain't."
That meant connecting Vegas -- and later other tourist destinations such as L.A., Orlando, and Phoenix -- to dozens of otherwise empty airports in third-string cities such as Peoria, Fresno, and Toledo. Allegiant faces competition on only 6 of its 134 routes. It doesn't try to steal other carriers' passengers; it stimulates new ones with cheap fares. "There's little the airlines can do [to compete] without cannibalizing their route structures," says Helane Becker, an aviation analyst at Jesup & Lamont Securities.
Because, except for the fuel, the MD-80 is cheap to operate, Allegiant doesn't need to fly its aircraft every minute of the day, unlike its competitors with new, rapidly depreciating planes. It can afford to serve smaller airports infrequently -- as few as three or four flights a week -- making more efficient use of its fleet. It serves 40 destinations from Las Vegas with just 14 planes. Its average flight is 90% full.
While major carriers have turned to charging for amenities out of desperation, Allegiant has always seen flying as an à la carte experience and has raised billing to an art form. Allegiant charges $13.50 just to book (like Ticketmaster); $15 for the first checked bag; between $5 and $25 for a seat assignment. (No surprise, then, that the Ryan family behind Ireland's discount carrier Ryanair feels a kinship with Allegiant and invested in an early financing round.)
And although it's usually possible to buy a vacation package from your airline's Web site, Allegiant actually woos its customers to do so, enabling it to position itself as a vertically integrated travel company. It sold 400,000 hotel rooms last year, along with extras such as beach towels and suntan oil for the trip. Financial catastrophe has been a boon, as oil's drop from its summer 2008 highs translated to lower fuel costs, and deserted hotels meant more discounted inventory to sell to passengers lured onboard by $9 teaser fares.
At that price, or even at Allegiant's average one-way fare in 2008 of $84.97, Americans are still willing to fly. Meanwhile, ancillary revenue per passenger rose 52% in the first quarter, to $34, comprising nearly a third of the company's business.
The advantage of this pricing structure is psychological. "We collect $110 from you at the end of your trip," Gallagher says. "If I tried to charge you $110 up front, you wouldn't pay it. But if I sell you a $75 ticket and you self-select the rest, you will."
Allegiant has room to grow. "There's still a lot of small markets it could tap into," says Forrester Research analyst Henry Harteveldt. "It just started flights into Los Angeles, and a third of its passengers are buying tickets in L.A." Gallagher presumes those travelers are commuting to second homes outside Billings, Montana, and the like. In Europe, this phenomenon is known as the "Ryanair effect."
Gallagher concedes there's not much more to squeeze from passengers in flight, but suggests Allegiant's destiny may be digital. Having built an integrated travel company, he can see a day when Allegiant is as much a portal as it is an airline. "We think there will be 100 million people who will have flown us, and they could eventually turn to us to put them on a plane" flown by a nominal competitor, "and put them in a Hyatt," he says. "We joke we're an Expedia with wings."


http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/138/flying-for-fun-and-profit.html


Quite the airline to fly for if you live in base. Sleep in your own bed on 95% of the trips.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

Flew on them back in March of '07 from LAS to GJT. Aircraft were immaculate and the crews were very good.
 
Pilots Loading Bags? Good or bad...

Yeah, getting paid RJ wages to fly mainline equipment is one hell of a good deal. :sarcasm:

Would seem that flying these days is a trade-off. Gone are the days of the really kick ass airline jobs, save UPS and Fedex (industry leading pay, great retirement, etc). Allegiant pays more than a regional, has much better work rules, and you sleep in your own bed 95% of the time. This sounds much better than what I hear from the regional pilots here. In fact, I doubt there is a regional pilot that would think their job is better than this one.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

Yeah, getting paid RJ wages to fly mainline equipment is one hell of a good deal. :sarcasm:

You also don't fly the mainline hours, everything has a payoff & Allegiant is not for everybody:dunno:

Good example are the pilots at Hawaiian, some of the Hawaiian stay on the 717, because they will be home in their own bed every night instead of upgrading to the 767 & getting the pay bump.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

Hardly regional rates. Allegient captains make $40/hr more than I do. FO rates after 5 years aren't stellar, but the first three are comparable within a few dollars to, say, AirTran.

I know they're not union, but saying it's "regional rates" is a bit of a stretch.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

Yeah, getting paid RJ wages to fly mainline equipment is one hell of a good deal. :sarcasm:

At least they are getting paid and not paying to sit in that seat.

I wonder if they make up the dollars per hour in saved union fee's?
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

Would seem that flying these days is a trade-off. Gone are the days of the really kick ass airline jobs, save UPS and Fedex (industry leading pay, great retirement, etc). Allegiant pays more than a regional, has much better work rules, and you sleep in your own bed 95% of the time. This sounds much better than what I hear from the regional pilots here. In fact, I doubt there is a regional pilot that would think their job is better than this one.

One good friend and two ex-coworkers are over there and they love sleeping in their own beds at night. Gotta tell ya, if I had a wife and three kids I wouldn't mind it.

My bud is a senior FO in Vegas, 120 hours from base, 90 credit hours. Damn.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

At least they are getting paid and not paying to sit in that seat.

I wonder if they make up the dollars per hour in saved union fee's?

They won't for long. Senior group and the majority of the FO's are pissed at the CEO and pushing for a union.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

You also don't fly the mainline hours, everything has a payoff & Allegiant is not for everybody:dunno:

Good example are the pilots at Hawaiian, some of the Hawaiian stay on the 717, because they will be home in their own bed every night instead of upgrading to the 767 & getting the pay bump.

The Hawaiian 717 pilots make industry-standard payrates for flying it. Big difference. Exercising your seniority rights to stay on SNB equipment rather than moving up to the bigger stuff is fine. Flying airplanes for a fraction of the going rate is not.

Hardly regional rates. Allegient captains make $40/hr more than I do.

They've had upgrades over there at 1st year pay, which is $61/hr. Tell me that's not an RJ payrate. :rolleyes: Even their top-out rate is basically Horizon's old RJ-70 rate.

FO rates after 5 years aren't stellar, but the first three are comparable within a few dollars to, say, AirTran.

I'm on 3rd year pay, and I make more than their top-out FO pay already. And I'm working under a contract that was signed 8 years ago at what was then a tiny airline!

I know they're not union, but saying it's "regional rates" is a bit of a stretch.

Not really.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

Las Vegas and set out to reinvent the business. Certified to fly MD-80s, aging warhorses of the skies, Allegiant could acquire used ones for as little as $4 million, one-tenth of what it costs Southwest to buy a new 737.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

The Hawaiian 717 pilots make industry-standard payrates for flying it. Big difference. Exercising your seniority rights to stay on SNB equipment rather than moving up to the bigger stuff is fine. Flying airplanes for a fraction of the going rate is not.



They've had upgrades over there at 1st year pay, which is $61/hr. Tell me that's not an RJ payrate. :rolleyes: Even their top-out rate is basically Horizon's old RJ-70 rate.



I'm on 3rd year pay, and I make more than their top-out FO pay already. And I'm working under a contract that was signed 8 years ago at what was then a tiny airline!



Not really.

That's what they said about Fedex, UPS, and Southwest. Unfortunately in this business, it seems like companies actually have to make a successful business before they can spoil their employees. What a novel idea. If they keep going the way they have, pay will undoubtedly go up at Allegiant. Either way I'd rather be at a place where the management seems like they know what they're doing rather than at a place that's just there idling.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

Unfortunately in this business, it seems like companies actually have to make a successful business before they can spoil their employees.

Who said anything about "spoiling" their employees? Something at least approaching industry-standard is not "spoiling." :rolleyes:
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

I flew them about 6-months ago - aircraft and crews were great. But I'd rather pay an extra $100 each way to fly with people who can spend more than $29 on a ticket. Like a flying greyhound bus ...
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

I just had an interview at Allegiant (non-flying) It was cool to learn how the company works and why they chose the mad dog knowing it burns a lot of gas. They own most of the 46 airplanes minus a few they lease to other companies. To be honest, it seems like they just hopped onto something that know one else was doing or wanted to for that matter and discovered their niche. They also have an exclusive deal with the Harrahs casino group who picks up the maintenance tabs. They told me the majority of their customers are Canadian and hop on in Bellingham, WA. If I don't get the job Ill start bashing them. ;)
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

Yeah, getting paid RJ wages to fly mainline equipment is one hell of a good deal. :sarcasm:

Well, I knew I would probably make somebody mad by saying that. Oh well. Can't make everyone happy I suppose. Personally, I'd still do it. Unless I didn't like to spend time with my family. They seem like a pretty friendly group. I've dealt with them on charters and always see at least one of the crew members while fueling them. They're always very nice and seem very happy.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

Well, I knew I would probably make somebody mad by saying that. Oh well. Can't make everyone happy I suppose. Personally, I'd still do it. Unless I didn't like to spend time with my family. They seem like a pretty friendly group. I've dealt with them on charters and always see at least one of the crew members while fueling them. They're always very nice and seem very happy.

QoL for some is more important then pay.

For me right now with no strings attached this statement is not true. Someone with a wife and 3 kids it is a totally different ball game.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

I wonder if they make up the dollars per hour in saved union fee's?


If you ever get a LOI then a LOC you are going to hope you have a ALPA Representative helping you out with it.

I know quite a few people happy to pay the dues after receiving a LOC and then getting it rescinded. It is well worth it to pay those dues to have insurance on your career.
 
re: 121 pilots throw bags or no? (and some Allegiant stuff)

QoL for some is more important then pay.

For me right now with no strings attached this statement is not true. Someone with a wife and 3 kids it is a totally different ball game.

Even if I had no strings attached (which I do, in a way) I'd still move to live in base if I went to an airline. IMO (not an airline pilot here), I think it's the only way to do the airline life. Only because you're maximizing your time off.
 
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