PlaneFan82
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When I was single all I needed was ramen and cheap beer.
Virgin America Hiring
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pljenkins
Resident Knucklehead
Hecklers2002 said:
It doesn't matter how much you make, of you want to live check to check, you will. It's all a matter of being realistic with your expectations. I was married with no kids when I was in Wisconsin making that. Had a three bedroom duplex, two and a half car garage, wall to wall and a goldfish. Drove two reasonable cars and had a motorcycle. Was in a bowling league and had enough to occasionally go out and screw around at the casino or have a nice dinner.
What I didn't do is buy an expensive car, try to live in a place that would break the budget or buy crap we didn't need. It was a good life and a good company. If it wasn't for United screwing us in bankruptcy I probably would have been there till I ended up here. Funny how life works. Anyway, moral of the story, only you can know what's acceptable pay and living conditions. For me, being laid off unexpectedly and facing the very real prospect of changing my address to my car has a way of making you appreciate the simple things...
Luigi
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Well when you have your dispatch office in a very expensive area....it can be hard for your people to make ends meet and thus they move on. I actually know someone I worked with at the regional level leave for Virgin America and it was so hard for her to make ends meet she left Virgin America and went back to the regionals as she is now at expressjet. I have heard similar stories with guys who have gone to JetBlue with them being in New York City.
manniax
Well-met in the Ka-tet
There is a lot of demand for experienced dispatchers at the majors right now - perhaps due to that, people are bailing on them faster than in the past. I have also heard of some disgruntled-ness over the IPO there - regular employees didn't make much of a bonus from that and all the executives did very well. It would be a killer first gig if you could get it...great experience, and they do pay well enough to make ends meet there...but you'd probably never be able to buy a house nearby the office either (just to clarify, that is due to their location/real estate prices and not due to the company being overly cheap.)
manniax
Well-met in the Ka-tet
A very good point, and usually when people get to a place they want to stay at for their career, they would like to be able to buy a house at some point...especially if they get married. This would be challenging in the Bay area. I'm not saying it wouldn't be possible to buy a house somewhere in driving distance from the office, but it would likely be a fairly long commute.
manniax
Well-met in the Ka-tet
I love the area, and in an earlier stage of my career I think I would have loved working there. However, while they do pay well I believe they also lack certain things in their compensation package that majors tend to have (due to union contracts) like paid sick leave, working under 2000 hours a year, pay scale, etc. (If there are any current VX employees on this board who wish to correct me on any of these, feel free.)
It might still be a great place to work, but you would have to go into it knowing that, realistically, your chances of affording a really nice house in the area someday are slim. I remember a list of things one time called "You know you live in California when..." and one of them was, you make over $200K a year and you can't afford to buy a house.
Troy McClure
Ah say boy...Whattcha got there son?
Yes, yes yes...please stay away from the Bay Area! Dont bring your harsh ideas from Shelbyville out here! Except you, NYK, your can come in.......
You knuckle nuts are funny....You guys must be the same meddling kids telling everyone how crappy and horrid it is to live in Seattle, cuz it always rains in Seattle and the sun NEVER comes out..("one time, in Seattle, this girl I know went there and she killed herself cuz the sun was gone..so dont go there or you will kill yourself too just like my friend" ) (warning: not a true story in the least)
Meanwhile, the locals are all snickering and telling each other, " they bought it, yeah! It's all ours!
Well I say, Boooo , Boooo, Boooo
Ill take my slice of million dollar pie on any given day.
Besides what do you get in Dallas or Atlanta for $350,000...a house in the middle of nuuuthing..next to nuuuuthing... that will be worth nuuuuthing in a few years! See.! Not so funny when it's your dream.....
Oh and the fine print..VX upped the req exp level to 3 years from 2 years which was in their job ad last fall. From what they tell me, this will not be anyone's first gig.
You knuckle nuts are funny....You guys must be the same meddling kids telling everyone how crappy and horrid it is to live in Seattle, cuz it always rains in Seattle and the sun NEVER comes out..("one time, in Seattle, this girl I know went there and she killed herself cuz the sun was gone..so dont go there or you will kill yourself too just like my friend" ) (warning: not a true story in the least)
Meanwhile, the locals are all snickering and telling each other, " they bought it, yeah! It's all ours!
Well I say, Boooo , Boooo, Boooo
Ill take my slice of million dollar pie on any given day.
Besides what do you get in Dallas or Atlanta for $350,000...a house in the middle of nuuuthing..next to nuuuuthing... that will be worth nuuuuthing in a few years! See.! Not so funny when it's your dream.....
Oh and the fine print..VX upped the req exp level to 3 years from 2 years which was in their job ad last fall. From what they tell me, this will not be anyone's first gig.
Luigi
Well-Known Member
Oh really? Cool I guess. I just saw the posting today and that wasn't on there.
PHL_Approach
Well-Known Member
They hide it a bit. It's in the second bullet point with "Thorough knowledge of applicable regulatory requirements.."
Troy McClure
Ah say boy...Whattcha got there son?
Well well...Mr Linguini doubts... Maybe what they meant was 3 and not Three.
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie roll tootsie pop?....THRRRRRRRRRRRRREEeeeeee.
And then there was this.......https://www.virginamerica.apply2job...tion=mExternal.showJob&RID=1746&CurrentPage=1
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie roll tootsie pop?....THRRRRRRRRRRRRREEeeeeee.
And then there was this.......https://www.virginamerica.apply2job...tion=mExternal.showJob&RID=1746&CurrentPage=1
- Current FAA Aircraft Dispatch Certificate required.
- Thorough knowledge of applicable regulatory requirements including three years of dispatch experience with a Part 121 carrier.
- Thorough knowledge of weather theory, charts, and reports in METAR format.
- Satisfactory completion of the training, testing and checking requirements as defined in Virgin America’s Flight Operations Training Manual (FOTM), and Dispatch Training Manual (DTM)
- Willingness and ability to work rotating shifts, rotating days-off, weekends and holidays, in a fast paced environment.
- Must pass a ten (10) year background check and pre-employment drug test.
- Possess the entrepreneurial spirit of Virgin America.
manniax
Well-met in the Ka-tet
As a full disclosure (although I have mentioned it in this forum before) I did interview there once, and I wasn't that impressed with the interview process or the office organization. However it was evidently a mutual feeling as I got a "no" email a few weeks later. I had just started at my current gig when I got a call from them and I thought it was worth checking out....now, this being said, had I still been at a regional and gotten an offer from them, I would have been all over it like a cheap suit no matter what the cost of living there was.
To each their own on where they want to live and work, as well as the lifestyle they want for their life. I'm not going to bash anyone for their preferences or dreams. I will admit, however, that I find the snark in your post a little unnecessary given that the conversation had stayed pretty civil up to that point. But again, to each their own.
Perhaps your dream is the Cali weather year round. If so, more power to you and I wish you the best in pursuit of your dreams. However, for the sake of argument and to provide a possible scenario driving the opinions of the other posters, it would be considerably easier to purchase a home at the $350,000 price point you mentioned in Dallas when you made $130,000/yr and didn't pay state income taxes. So much easier in fact that I'm sure you could afford a getaway home in a much more exotic location. So, some other members of the forum may be willing to forgo the Cali weather for a home in Texas and a condo in the Caribbean. More power to us all in the pursuit of whatever dreams we may chase.
av8or757
Well-Known Member
[QUOTE ="Troy McClure, post: 2451572, member: 30857"]Yes, yes yes...please stay away from the Bay Area! Dont bring your harsh ideas from Shelbyville out here! Except you, NYK, your can come in.......
You knuckle nuts are funny....You guys must be the same meddling kids telling everyone how crappy and horrid it is to live in Seattle, cuz it always rains in Seattle and the sun NEVER comes out..("one time, in Seattle, this girl I know went there and she killed herself cuz the sun was gone..so dont go there or you will kill yourself too just like my friend" ) (warning: not a true story in the least)
Meanwhile, the locals are all snickering and telling each other, " they bought it, yeah! It's all ours!
Well I say, Boooo , Boooo, Boooo
Ill take my slice of million dollar pie on any given day.
Besides what do you get in Dallas or Atlanta for $350,000...a house in the middle of nuuuthing..next to nuuuuthing... that will be worth nuuuuthing in a few years! See.! Not so funny when it's your dream.....
Oh and the fine print..VX upped the req exp level to 3 years from 2 years which was in their job ad last fall. From what they tell me, this will not be anyone's first gig.[/QUOTE]
In all fairness.....as a Boston native in Texas now, for $350k a year I don't have to pay the feds on top of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts 5.3% on state taxes.
Some pretty nice houses with awesome square footage in the Dallas and Houston suburbs. And here in The Woodlands I'd say some of my neighbors are more well known than me with certainly a nicer income and choose to live here. In the middle of nothing.....
Everyone's situation is different.
You knuckle nuts are funny....You guys must be the same meddling kids telling everyone how crappy and horrid it is to live in Seattle, cuz it always rains in Seattle and the sun NEVER comes out..("one time, in Seattle, this girl I know went there and she killed herself cuz the sun was gone..so dont go there or you will kill yourself too just like my friend" ) (warning: not a true story in the least)
Meanwhile, the locals are all snickering and telling each other, " they bought it, yeah! It's all ours!
Well I say, Boooo , Boooo, Boooo
Ill take my slice of million dollar pie on any given day.
Besides what do you get in Dallas or Atlanta for $350,000...a house in the middle of nuuuthing..next to nuuuuthing... that will be worth nuuuuthing in a few years! See.! Not so funny when it's your dream.....
Oh and the fine print..VX upped the req exp level to 3 years from 2 years which was in their job ad last fall. From what they tell me, this will not be anyone's first gig.[/QUOTE]
In all fairness.....as a Boston native in Texas now, for $350k a year I don't have to pay the feds on top of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts 5.3% on state taxes.
Some pretty nice houses with awesome square footage in the Dallas and Houston suburbs. And here in The Woodlands I'd say some of my neighbors are more well known than me with certainly a nicer income and choose to live here. In the middle of nothing.....
Everyone's situation is different.
