KMIC - SR22 down

JEP · Jun 17, 2009

Another Cirrus SR22. Was raining pretty bad last night but not that bad:

KMIC 170353Z 10004KT 6SM -RA BR FEW038 OVC085 17/16 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP120 P0009 T01670161
KMIC 170309Z 10004KT 4SM RA BR OVC044 17/17 A2990 RMK AO2 P0003
KMIC 170253Z AUTO 08003KT 3SM -RA BR OVC042 17/17 A2990 RMK AO2 SLP121 P0004 60019 T01720172 53004
KMIC 170209Z 00000KT 2 1/2SM -RA BR FEW029 OVC042 17/17 A2989 RMK AO2 P0002
KMIC 170153Z 00000KT 1 1/2SM -RA BR BKN032 BKN042 OVC049 17/17 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP118 P0006 T01720172
KMIC 170151Z 00000KT 1 1/2SM -RA BR BKN032 BKN042 OVC049 17/17 A2989 RMK AO2 P0006

http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0906/05158AD.PDF

SFCC/UND · Jun 17, 2009

did it crash on final?

cmill · Jun 17, 2009

an even better question, did he pull the chute?

rd757 · Jun 17, 2009

cmill said:
an even better question, did he pull the chute?

:yeahthat: :clap:

op:

RD

SFCC/UND · Jun 17, 2009

cmill said:
an even better question, did he pull the chute?

Better question was he flying in icing conditions?

mtsu_av8er · Jun 17, 2009

SFCC/UND said:
Better question was he flying in icing conditions?

At 17 degrees?

cmill · Jun 17, 2009

calm winds, light rain, relatively high ceilings, and a panel full of glass. what was his deal? The wx wasnt even technically ifr. You could get in there SVFR no prob.

DPApilot · Jun 17, 2009

cmill said:
an even better question, did he pull the chute?

would it have even helped?

rd757 · Jun 17, 2009

DPApilot said:
would it have even helped?

Does it ever help?
:sarcasm:

SFCC/UND · Jun 17, 2009

rd757 said:
Does it ever help?

I think one time out of a hundred.

surreal1221 · Jun 17, 2009

I'm surprised Cirrus is still in operation.

I'd imagine all the horrible PR would have stopped sales.

Fools and their money.

jhugz · Jun 17, 2009

It is funny when people talk about what they don't know about.

JEP · Jun 17, 2009

SFCC/UND said:
did it crash on final?

That is what is being reported. Probably using the longer of the 14's.

cmill said:
an even better question, did he pull the chute?

Didn't mention it so I would imagine not. Although there was mention of an explosion after it was burning....

SFCC/UND said:
Better question was he flying in icing conditions?

Nope pretty warm yesterday.

DPApilot said:
would it have even helped?

nope

surreal1221 said:
I'm surprised Cirrus is still in operation.

I'd imagine all the horrible PR would have stopped sales.

Fools and their money.

He was in their target demographic....Why would it stop sales though? All those guys that crashed were bad pilots. It'll never happen to me... :sarcasm:

cloudman · Jun 17, 2009

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did it crash on final?

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That is what is being reported. Probably using the longer of the 14's.

Quote:
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an even better question, did he pull the chute?

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Didn't mention it so I would imagine not.

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Better question was he flying in icing conditions?

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Nope pretty warm yesterday.

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would it have even helped?

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nope

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I'm surprised Cirrus is still in operation.

I'd imagine all the horrible PR would have stopped sales.

Fools and their money.

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He was in their target demographic....
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Sorry kids, Cirrus builds a nice bird. At the end of the day it comes down to training. Et Al Colgan Air.

rd757 · Jun 17, 2009

cloudman said:
Sorry kids, Cirrus builds a nice bird. At the end of the day it comes down to training. Et Al Colgan Air.

:guns:

RD

jhugz · Jun 17, 2009

cloudman said:
Sorry kids, Cirrus builds a nice bird. At the end of the day it comes down to training. Et Al Colgan Air.

Nah...it isn't even training because Cirrus does a very good job of that. It comes down to stupidity and DM which obviously a lot of the aviation community does not have whether that be in a Cirrus, Mooney, Beechcraft, or Cessna. Use your head people.

OldTownPilot · Jun 17, 2009

Honestly, I think Cirrus builds TOO GOOD of an airplane for these pilots. They end up doing things that they would not otherwise do in a bonanza etc, because of the Perspective avionics, the non certified TKS. There is almost the impression that (for a VFR pilot) that you can just look inside at the pretty picture and fly that way in very marginal weather conditions.

mikecweb · Jun 17, 2009

jhugz said:
It is funny when people talk about what they don't know about.

You must laugh at yourself constantly.

jynxyjoe · Jun 17, 2009

OldTownPilot said:
Honestly, I think Cirrus builds TOO GOOD of an airplane for these pilots. They end up doing things that they would not otherwise do in a bonanza etc, because of the Perspective avionics, the non certified TKS. There is almost the impression that (for a VFR pilot) that you can just look inside at the pretty picture and fly that way in very marginal weather conditions.

:clap::yeahthat:
Don't forget the salesmen, trying to convince them the pretty avionics and BS TKS will get them "out of trouble".

I'll give you my opinion of Cirrus too, then again I just be :deadhorse:.

WalterSobchak · Jun 17, 2009

SFCC/UND said:
Better question was he flying in icing conditions?

:yup:
KMIC 170353Z 10004KT 6SM -RA BR FEW038 OVC085 17/16 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP120 P0009 T01670161

It is June and even in MN it does get warm!:laff:

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