Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Was he challenging him to a duel with pistols at sunrise?
Delta Negotiations Update
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Was he challenging him to a duel with pistols at sunrise?
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
For Real -9? Or one of its younger siblings? Either way, congrats.
bike21
9-5 Ruins Lives
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Thanks! It should probably say MD-95 or B717, but yeah it's the ol' type
Enjoy doing "stable" 1:1 descents at 200 knots in that thing. Most fun jet I've ever flown.
bike21
9-5 Ruins Lives
Sweet, looking forward to it. The sim handles like a dump truck, not sure how the plane will.
GaTechKid
Well-Known Member
Did you guys use the derate climb thrust as well?
mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
Double derate on the 73
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Yes. 15% for 100K to 108K and 20% for less than 100K.
Unless we are trying to get above a ATR so they'll turn us for home.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
ian
Well-Known Member
Yeah didn't you know....we are giving up nothing...all wins!
ian
Well-Known Member
this passes easy. They did a great job sending out the Notepad a few weeks ago with only pay rates and not including any of the gives on it. This got guys to look at the shiny pay rates and decided they are voting yes without looking at the concessions that are coming out now. Brilliant job. The senior guys I've flown with have essentially said they think the sick leave changes are BS but they will look past it because of the pay rates and retro. Don't care about scope because they are staying put on the 737 the last few years until they retire. Say they can deal with it for the few years they have left for the money
PeanuckleCRJ
Poodle Wrangler
I'm just not seeing the downsides that they are yelling about on chit chat... these are the death throes of the DPA movement, and a no no no push is all they have left in them.
I saw a significant upside with my no vote last year, and that has played out about as I hoped it would. I do not see anything close to a significant upside by turning this one down... in fact I see it leading to a downside.
I saw a significant upside with my no vote last year, and that has played out about as I hoped it would. I do not see anything close to a significant upside by turning this one down... in fact I see it leading to a downside.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
That crapfest is nothing more than an echo chamber of the same 30 or so hardcore DPAers. They only look at the worst and not the whole. One example is the JV language. They focus on the 48% and say, "We are giving up 2%!!" No, that's what we are flying now. As for the floor the company can drop to, 46, they have to maintain a MINIMUM of 650,000 BL of WB and 757 flying. Basically, if they drop the JV flying to 46, the international flying has to be made up in another international market. Not a loss of jobs, just a shift of jobs. Still DL pilots, flying DL metal internationally. It's a protection we don't have currently. More importantly, we got rid of the "cure period."
It's important to look at the whole, not cherry pick what looks like the worst. But you can't tell them that. You'll be blasted as a sellout. Much like the Dems are all for diversity, until you disagree with them.
