Did someone change the song?
Somebody has been hitting the bottle a little to much! I understand where your heart is about all the bashing. But as far as the PAY, Please get off your high horse. Just explain why you and I now get zero credit for CX and WX for 48hrs. and then if its not giving to you that I now have to email somebody to get paid?:bandit:
The union drive is on, and it affects ALL of us. It's time for less talk and more action. Support the union drive and get the the CJC crowd on board.
Remember: Only YOU can prevent pilots from "Doin' Da Colgan."
Right now I'm pretty happy being at Colgan. My life ain't bad at all.
Same here, the Colgan "horror's" are way over exagerated. Mostly by people that weren't here that long and have gone and left, but yet they still love to chime in about life at Colgan. I'm not saying there is nothing wrong, and yes I am voting for ALPA, but if you are an outsider, its not even close to as bad as it sounds.
I am a pinnacle pilot and I know that ALPA has flaws, especially on the regional level, but if you Colganites join us and sign with Alpa, together we can make Alpa stronger and completely eliminate the threat of a whipsaw in the PNCL corp under one seniority list.
I know that this was posted sort of in jest, but you do realize that it's not all about you. I mean, it's great you don't give a damn what they do to the rest of the industry as long as they don't touch your corner of it.
I have been doing some thinking. People LOVE bashing Colgan and quite frankly it is uncalled for.
Yes we have our issues, however, to bash us as 'undercutters' etc is quite uncalled for. First off, when I first started off at Colgan, NO ONE knew who we where. I remember jumpseating for the first time on Airways, happy as a kid in a candy shop to be sitting up front on a 757 from MCO to CLT. The crew had NO IDEA who Colgan was. This was a recurring issue for my first year and a half here. NO ONE knew who we where, what we flew, or cared for that matter. A few times, while jumping on contracted flying operators I was look at and thought of as a cute odity. 'Aww, it is a poor Colgan guy, when are you going to make the jump and fly a RJ,' was said numerous times to me while traveling around.
In the past year and a half, the calls have been greater for calling us undercutters, contracted flying stealers, whatever. I ask, what makes us undercuttersstealer's though? Yes we need a union here, but the more and more I talk to other people at other airlines, things really are on par with other airlines, if not better.
Some people love to bash us on pay. Well, our pay rates suck, but, our pay rules do make up for it in a way. We are paid for first flight of the day checks, runups, repos, wx cancelations, hot reserve pay (which basically is a duty rig pay which I doubt other airlines have), block or better, and other little oddities that one can work in. Are guys at XJET being paid to do their first flight of the day checks? What about at ASA, RAH, or American Eagle? My pay credit yesterday was suppose to be 4:27 minutes. Well I was stuck all day in BDL with a mechanical. Ended up with a 6:56 minute pay credit, didn't fly a leg, and made it home six hours late. Is that really undercutting anyone? Made more for the day than I was scheduled to do and didn't have to say V1. I am not bragging here, just saying.
A lot of people love to bash our scheduling department and what they make our pilots do. After hearing stories about other airlines scheduling departments, well we all have the same issues.
Yes, we do need improvement here, we need ALPA on property, and we must raise the bar.
However, as times are tough in this industry, it is easy to point fingers at particularly groups. We must all look in the mirror and look at ourselves first before we point the finger at others. Don't look at one particular group for the problems of this industry. Not fair or right.
Or what about the fact that you are the only airline that flys 75 seaters for 50 seat pay?
Who is worse out there? (not rhetorical, I really don't know)Um? Hello? No.
No argument from me that the Q pay rate is hurting a lot of people right now, but at least they have a different rate from 37 (or what ever the SAAB is) to 76 seats. That's a hell of a lot better then some other places out there.
Delta could run a 767 every half hour, all day long, and every single flight would be oversold between hubs. There is no legitimate reason to use RJs on these flights.
I believe Mesa (per aircraft type) and Republic pay their FOs the same no matter how many seats they fly.
Most of the reason that an RJ is used on those flights is because of positioning. Delta is a "round trip" airline when it comes to aircraft scheduling. Rarely would you have a CRJ go ATL-SDF-CVG to get it up to CVG. The aircraft would just fly ATL-CVG and then hub and spoke out of there.
I'm not talking about pay rates. I'm talking about actual pay levels for number of seats. See, now I'm going to get myself in trouble...
Sky West has one rate for all their flying. The "override" they get for flying a bigger airplane is a joke.
I believe Mesa (per aircraft type) and Republic pay their FOs the same no matter how many seats they fly.
It makes it VERY difficult to negotiate a rate for a new airframe on your own property when management keeps saying "well, look at them, they fly everything for one rate so we shouldn't even be having this conversation".