Stone Cold
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I had typed something else, but really, that's your response? Okay then.You drunk tonight, or just angry?
I had typed something else, but really, that's your response? Okay then.You drunk tonight, or just angry?
Well, that escalated quickly. Удачи.The butthurt is strong with this one...
Any mode given to you is good, but there really are not universal answers. FL350 to FL360, VS 500 is very nice. It's very smooth.
Some people, however (are we really going this far in depth on a thread about unstabilized approaches), think it's a "universal truth" that VS is smoother than other modes, which it isn't.
Find the correct tool for the appropriate situation.
Small altitude chances which mean a small climb or decent, sure.
Large altitude changes, not so much.
Large commands in VS climb or descents, not so much either.
Vertical speed means vertical speed as a priority. Most airplanes I've flown say, "OK boss! VS 2000 it is!" and it will get slow in a climb or get fast in a descent in some situations. I've seen too many guys roll in a hefty vertical descent, blows through their airspeed, alarms go off and they commence bitching about how much of a POS the mad dog is. Or try to roll in a generous VS climb on the Bus, start decelerating and start complaining about how the French designed an airplane.
The moment we let go of trying to "one size fits all" with the automation is the day we stop having these ridiculous arguments.
Sorry, ridiculous but highly entertaining.
Who said anything about absolutes? There are times for each mode, and some planes do better in some modes over others.
Anyways, y'all enjoy.
Any mode given to you is good, but there really are not universal answers. FL350 to FL360, VS 500 is very nice. It's very smooth.
Some people, however (are we really going this far in depth on a thread about unstabilized approaches), think it's a "universal truth" that VS is smoother than other modes, which it isn't.
Find the correct tool for the appropriate situation.
Small altitude chances which mean a small climb or decent, sure.
Large altitude changes, not so much.
Large commands in VS climb or descents, not so much either.
Vertical speed means vertical speed as a priority. Most airplanes I've flown say, "OK boss! VS 2000 it is!" and it will get slow in a climb or get fast in a descent in some situations. I've seen too many guys roll in a hefty vertical descent, blows through their airspeed, alarms go off and they commence bitching about how much of a POS the mad dog is. Or try to roll in a generous VS climb on the Bus, start decelerating and start complaining about how the French designed an airplane.
The moment we let go of trying to "one size fits all" with the automation is the day we stop having these ridiculous arguments.
Sorry, ridiculous but highly entertaining.
Wasn't directed at you, but more of a sawed-off shotgun blast o' Derg out the back door!
VS is all the SAAB has for descents. For climbs I like high/medium climb mode.
True. It has IAS, Climb, and VS modes for climb. I use VS for descent. It makes crossing restrictions easier.SAAB has an IAS mode you can use up or down, at least that's what I recall it's been a while.
Not that you asked me, nor do you care, but for the most part, I loathe flight level change in the ERJ. I only use it climbing below 10,000 ft, and only when it is smooth.I love the erj145 in flight level change.
Yup. I...
1. Pull VS +500 as a start
2. Pull speed and drive it up to .79 or .80 (only a technique to stay in climb power)*
3. Hit PERF button on the FMGC and stay at published mach speed in cruise phase as much as possible by varying the VS rate to do so.
* Not pulling speed to a higher value and leaving a VS of 500 will sometimes bring power back from climb, when really the power could stay in and attain a higher climb rate. It's a technique thing, but you can always tell about a pilot by how effective they are.
You could use IAS mode as well in the Saab... I don't recommend it though.VS is all the SAAB has for descents. For climbs I like high/medium climb mode.