Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
I'm going to say this again, 95% of controllers could care less if you say "With you" so why other pilots care is beyond me.
I purposely talk like an asshat
Better watch out, huggy! Someone might make that sig material!
<---- 36 years, 3 months more of mashing buttons.
I'm going to say this again, 95% of controllers could care less if you say "With you" so why other pilots care is beyond me.
95% of controllers don't care.
95% of other pilots think it makes you sound like a moron.
Just today- 3 in a row. I'm pretty sure just because of the first one.
Pilot 1: "Orlando approach, Cessna 12345, with you, at 2,500."
Pilot 2: "Approach, Cirrus 6789, uhhh... with you, 2,000 we're climbing up to 4,500."
Pilot 3: (Chinese-student-pilot-accent) "Orlando approach, Cessna 54321, climbing through 900 for 1,500... -long pause- with YOU."
I don't know why I have a problem with it? But, I almost had a stroke when that last kid said 'with you'!
That last one is pretty funny, but I personally don't care much. As Stone Cold said, it's certainly not proper FAA/ICAO phraseology, but you'd be surprised at just how many experienced crews say it, even ones who fly almost exclusively international. I get a chuckle out of "Ankara, ShinyJet 123, uh, HEAVY, with you at three-six-oh."
Philly: "Actually Cessna 123, you did tell me you had Uniform - I have it on tape - the word 'with' precedes the ATIS information code - you want to try again".
(More silence and then maybe a realization)
Cessna 123: "OK Philly, Cessna 123 with...shoot...over Woodstown with information Mike".
Not that I ever remember to do it or that I think you're implying otherwise, but aren't you supposed to say heavy on your initial call-up, even to enroute ARTCC-type facilities, per ICAO document 4444? Maybe a better question would be, "which countries actually want/expect ICAO phraseology ?"
I know I know, super dorky, doesn't matter, etc but when you log 50 hours where the only button (ahem, sorry, "switch") you get to press is "radio transmit" your mind wanders to scary places like this
I have been curious about people's opinion on this though, since it's seems pretty ridiculous to add "heavy" in someplace like Hong Kong where 90%+ of all traffic qualifies......