statusseeker1
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If I never got a high performance endorsement but hold type ratings on transport category aircraft, would I technically need that sign off before acting as PIC? Reference? Thanks.
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Volkl5star
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You need the sign off. 61.31 (f).
If you went from a 172 to a g550 I want whatever you're smoking bro.
If you went from a 172 to a g550 I want whatever you're smoking bro.
Crockrocket94
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Well, if you're acting as PIC as a part 25 AC id imagine the type would suffice. Am I wrong here?
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFar.nsf/FARSBySectLookup/61.31
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFar.nsf/FARSBySectLookup/61.31
Pilot Fighter
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I had an applicant recently that had a bunch of time in a PA-34-200, below the HP threshold. Still, I don't think there are any exceptions.
I agree. Part (3)(iv) has the answer.
Pilot Fighter
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Requires a slide rule.how do you find out the horsepower of a jet engine?
sweeps
Undercarriage Actuator
So if you're flying 91 then you would still need the endorsement right?
statusseeker1
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Part (3)(iv) only references high altitude sign offs are not needed- says nothing about the high performance endorsement. I'm sure lots of people fall under this category- go from flying 172s, arrow's, seminole's, to regional aircraft.
z987k
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No, a 135 or 121 check counts as your high altitude endorsement.
This. There's nothing about high performance in Part 3.
Houston
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Correct, but needs to add "if done in a pressurized aircraft or simulator representative of a pressurized aircraft".
z987k
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Ah yes that to. Read the reg.
BobDDuck
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how do you find out the horsepower of a jet engine?
They measure different things so it's kind of tough to make the conversion. However the general rule is that 105 pounds of thrust is equal to 1 hp.
z987k
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Really? That'd make things like the Eclipse and Citation Mustang not high performance.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
I know. Someday the FAA may rewrite reg to include a thrust number as well as a HP number, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
z987k
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I'm not really sure how a conversion is even possible. Thrust is pressure while HP is power, or a measurement of work. It'd be like asking how many bushels of corn it takes to send a rocket to the moon. It doesn't work like that. The pressure number needs time to go with it to be work. X lbs of force exerted over Y time. Which is what HP is. Essentially, pounds/N are not a valid label for work. They are not work, they are force.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
That's why I said that they may have to entirely rewrite the reg to address the fact that people are jumping into VLJs and what not right from low end Cessnas. Same deal with a centerline thrust restricted multi engine rating.
z987k
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So I guess you can go fly a C500 with a type and no HP endorsement, and if the feds try to violate you, you can just call a high school physics teacher as a witness as to how retarded the FAA is?
Pilot Fighter
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Maybe calories.
Houston
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Like you, I would not hold my breath either. I've heard it cost $2M to make any regulatory change. So there a lot of "that doesn't fit" or "that doesn't make sense" regulations that go unchanged. Unless there is an accident or group of problems that brings the need for a change to the forefront, it just doesn't get changed.
