PSA New Hire Questions

Soku39 said:
Are you a PSA guy? I'm a new hire and live in NEOH and make the drive down to DAY, I've heard recently that pilots and F/As would even vulunteer their time to be base admin/orgainze the Jepps etc. For only working here for 4 months its amazing how far management will go out of their way to cut off their nose to spite their face.
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I was for about 8 years. Gone for almost 2 years now though. You'll find my name on the signature page of the 2013 contract though, so I certainly have an interest in how things go there. Understand that at almost any company you'll get a group of DoGooders™ who will always go the extra mile to help out the company, even on their time off. It happens at the regionals and it happens at the majors too. Despite that, it's still a pretty good company to hang your hat at (well, assuming you have hats now) for a bit.
 
Quick question. During the SAP, can you drop all your trips and pick up trips from another domicile? Over 65 hours of course
 
BobDDuck said:
I was for about 8 years. Gone for almost 2 years now though. You'll find my name on the signature page of the 2013 contract though, so I certainly have an interest in how things go there. Understand that at almost any company you'll get a group of DoGooders™ who will always go the extra mile to help out the company, even on their time off. It happens at the regionals and it happens at the majors too. Despite that, it's still a pretty good company to hang your hat at (well, assuming you have hats now) for a bit.
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Trust me no one that's been hired at PSA in the last 6 months at is going to lift a finger on a day off to help the company out.

My favorite example from last week, a guy is TYS based, CLT based Jan 1, they want him to sit reserve in TYS, fair. The catch they refused to give him a hotel in TYS or pay per diem because he didn't have his relocation days yet, union fixed it, but completely unreal. Having the union on speed dial gets tiring after awhile.

IOE is apparently carte blanche to do whatever they want to you no matter what the contract says.

I personally know two people that quit after flying the line for a month. After talking to guys that have been around for 2 or more years it would appear that the place has turned into a circus in the last 6 months, I don't think any of the schedulers have a clue what the contract says and they more or less just make things up as they go along. Yes of course this is every regional, but when I was working at XJT it wasn't nearly as bad as what they try and pull here. It's not even close to the same company that it was 2 years ago unfortunately, much more Mesa or GoJet style with all the growth, always saving 10 cents to spend a buck. I am personally done recommending that friends come work here.

Thank you for doing what you could when you were around.
 
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It's WAY better than it was 2 years ago. Granted we are experiencing some growing pains we now have the SAP, stay in better hotels, FO's might see a line 1-3 months after IOE depending on base, and have ridiculously short upgrade times.

Don't spend too much time in the crew rooms and/or let the negativity get the worst of you. Go to work, try to enjoy your time at work, enjoy your time off, get your time, and get out. Also, be sure to know your contract. Most schedulers do but we've had some turnover, if you can point out where something is contractually illegal they will usually let it go. Don't take anything personal, they're under a lot of stress and pressure to cover flights, quote the contract and tell them to have a nice day.
 
Freecos said:
The CLT crew room is horrible. It's always hot in there.

Rabble rabble rabble
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Our old crew room in Charlotte was awesome. Always cool and dark. Lots of comfy chairs and quiet corners... and a pool table. Of course there was about 3 inches of dust/mold on the ceiling around the air vents, but you could always over look that.
 
djnk954 said:
Quick question. During the SAP, can you drop all your trips and pick up trips from another domicile? Over 65 hours of course
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I think you can pick up trips in other base when Open Time "First come first serve" opens, this is after Senority Base open time.
 
djnk954 said:
Quick question. During the SAP, can you drop all your trips and pick up trips from another domicile? Over 65 hours of course
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In the SAP you cannot pick up trips form other domiciles.

You can in seniority based, and first come first served.
 
BobDDuck said:
Our old crew room in Charlotte was awesome. Always cool and dark. Lots of comfy chairs and quiet corners... and a pool table. Of course there was about 3 inches of dust/mold on the ceiling around the air vents, but you could always over look that.
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And you guys had the mouse. Mr. Jingles? something like that.
 
Soku39 said:
Trust me no one that's been hired at PSA in the last 6 months at is going to lift a finger on a day off to help the company out.

My favorite example from last week, a guy is TYS based, CLT based Jan 1, they want him to sit reserve in TYS, fair. The catch they refused to give him a hotel in TYS or pay per diem because he didn't have his relocation days yet, union fixed it, but completely unreal. Having the union on speed dial gets tiring after awhile.

IOE is apparently carte blanche to do whatever they want to you no matter what the contract says.

I personally know two people that quit after flying the line for a month. After talking to guys that have been around for 2 or more years it would appear that the place has turned into a circus in the last 6 months, I don't think any of the schedulers have a clue what the contract says and they more or less just make things up as they go along. Yes of course this is every regional, but when I was working at XJT it wasn't nearly as bad as what they try and pull here. It's not even close to the same company that it was 2 years ago unfortunately, much more Mesa or GoJet style with all the growth, always saving 10 cents to spend a buck. I am personally done recommending that friends come work here.

Thank you for doing what you could when you were around.
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PSA is more than doubling their fleet and you expected it not to be a circus?
 
jynxyjoe said:
This is what the pilots wanted, ALPA reflects the pilots. Maybe ALPA national should step in and veto contracts but pilots don't ever seem to want that except online. Renationalize airlines as far as I care, one national seniority list, and give me a government pension and thrift savings account.
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Amtrak
 
Phil Schuyler said:
No, not random companies. Just government-run companies that don't make money. :-)
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Us military. Public education. Other than pave, protect or print projects, I don't think any of them make money. They are investments for different reasons that have a long or negligible roi.

Now amtrack and a national airline might be investments we won't need or want. But government wasn't started up to make money. It's when the majority of humans said "we outnumber you, you work for us now". They became citizens at that point. And citizens and the republic that represents them said things like, we want to attack this country for attacking us, but we aren't going to seize their land and natural resources and sell them to make money. Nor did they say public education is going to provide a service and value and we should charge for it.

Im not saying renationalize, im saying if they did I would love it and I'd benefit greatly.
 
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