Latest offer from FedEx management: We know it sucks here, we worked out an offer for you guys to go to PSA instead!

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Pilots: own two+ houses, have a boat, and boast a $100k+ car.
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I own a house in Nowhere, IL (which is oddly valued near the same as the boat I want), I still drive my Brasilia copilot car which is v much paid off, and it’s been quite some time since I went on vacation.

Also pilots: i DoNt GeT pAiD eNoUgH! ScReW mAnAgEmEnT! BuRn tHiS pLaCe DoWn!!!!!!!!
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I want to be fairly compensated for the revenue and value I create, do so in a safe working environment, and not be exhausted all the time, and very occasionally go “you know what? No!” and hit the authorized personal drop button when something I very much dislike gets awarded. I do not think these are unreasonable demands.

I also don’t have any kids, so boats it is I suppose.
 
Regarding the UPS layoffs, back in the olden times when I'd pushback a 757 five nights a week I was a contractor and there was a clear division between the ground and air employees, if memory serves they were actually two different but related companies. The airplane people did airplane things and the ground people did brown truck things. The only reason I bring it up is I recall UPS ground people successfully negotiating a new contract recently that certainly ended up improving their lives, maybe it's not sustainable for their employer, but I don't think the warehouse workers, the drivers and their managers even work for the same company as the airline (that's what they call it). I forget the proper name for either side of the company (I was working part a time contract for Ameriflight and going to school at the time) but I do recall when they showed up at Burbank they were referred to as "Cargo Nazis". I enjoyed my time working there, it fit my schedule perfectly and I had one of the best jobs on the ramp, I drove the tug.
 
So a “cost neutral” proposal….oops, I mean “supposal” :rolleyes: from the company last week.

Settle in, this thing isn’t getting done soon.
 
knot4u said:
I enjoyed my time working there, it fit my schedule perfectly and I had one of the best jobs on the ramp, I drove the tug.
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As I've no doubt suggested previously, while there are many pitfalls to working for the Brown Eminence, not knowing where you stand isn't one of them. Cross all of the Ts, dot all of the Is, and leave it all on the ramp. There are no surprises, here, and that's a weird kind of virtue.
 
Boris Badenov said:
As I've no doubt suggested previously, while there are many pitfalls to working for the Brown Eminence, not knowing where you stand isn't one of them. Cross all of the Ts, dot all of the Is, and leave it all on the ramp. There are no surprises, here, and that's a weird kind of virtue.
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Yeah, talk to them like your talking to your grandma. Every time.
 
Boris Badenov said:
As I've no doubt suggested previously, while there are many pitfalls to working for the Brown Eminence, not knowing where you stand isn't one of them. Cross all of the Ts, dot all of the Is, and leave it all on the ramp. There are no surprises, here, and that's a weird kind of virtue.
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It can vary depending on the "load". I once tried to tear the seal off of a container so the Tetris masters that stacked the belly compartments could load the cargo and cut my hand very badly. Problem was I was the only person that had any experience actually pushing a fully loaded 757 uphill while changing its direction by about 200 degrees. I'd been training a person but she wasn't quite up to speed yet. I was leaking fluid all over the ramp and someone quickly shuttled me into the hangar and wrapped up my hand in an abnormal amount of gauze and tapped me on the head and sent me back into the fray. It was a Friday and I was supposed to leave after work and drive to Big Bear to go snowboarding. I was shuttled back to the tug when it was time to push and I did it, but I was very woozy, everything looked very yellow and my trainee mentioned that I looked like a ghost as all of the bright lights seemed to fade in and out. But I got it done and the airplane left on time. Once I parked the tug they whisked me off to the ER to get stitches. I made the mistake of telling the ER folks I was in a hurry as they were stitching up my fingers because I was off on another SoCal alpine experience as soon as I got out of there. Have you ever seen one of those peace sign hand gesture stickers? That's what they did to my hand with bandages after they stitched it up, I still drove to Big Bear and although I couldn't fit a glove on my hand and I showed up about 5 hours late a good time was had by all.
 
GypsyPilot said:
I’m not kidding unfortunately. This is from our VP of Flight Ops:

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As I recently communicated, our Flight Operations are significantly overstaffed. Air cargo demand remains down, with decreased revenues and volumes similar to 2019 levels. Consequently, Bid Line Guarantees on most of our fleets are at or near minimums and will probably stay there for the foreseeable future. This low demand is not unique to FedEx but is an industry-wide issue impacting the major cargo carriers. For example, just last week, UPS announced it was revising its annual outlook downward because of the slowing global economy.



As you may have noticed, the passenger industry is not facing the same issues, and those carriers continue to hire pilots at a pace we haven’t seen in recent history with no apparent end in sight.



With that in mind, I want to make you aware of an opportunity that is intended to address the booming demand for passenger carrier pilots and that could help with our overstaffing at the same time. For years, we have had a very good relationship with American Airlines, and they have a healthy respect for the quality of our crew force. In light of their need for additional crew members, they approached us with a unique opportunity for FedEx pilots to be hired via an expedited interview process directly into the Captain seat at their wholly-owned subsidiary, PSA Airlines. The program is available through December 1 and highlights include:



  • A $250,000 signing bonus
  • Years of Service credit for Part 121 flying
  • Guaranteed flow to American Airlines


While I understand that this is not something that will appeal to every pilot, for those of you who are frustrated with current flight hours, career progression, or have just been on the fence about available options, you may consider this unique opportunity enough of an incentive to make a move. Frankly, I was pessimistic about how attractive the opportunity might be when first approached, but the details are compelling.



More information can be found here: https://psaairlines.com/fedex-pilots.



I have always been passionate about our pilot hiring process and the selection of crew members for the future of FedEx. I know we have done that well. But sometimes career and family priorities change, and I understand that too. Just the other day, I received an email from a two-year legacy pilot (father flew here) who has made the difficult choice to leave FedEx for a passenger carrier. It was painful to read, but he believes he is making the best decision for his family situation, and I support him wholeheartedly.



A slowing economy, large customer contract negotiations, and slowing pilot retirements with an already overmanned crew force have forced me to accept the fact that I might be seeing more folks that I once personally called to offer a position at FedEx accept offers elsewhere. I have no doubt that FedEx will continue to navigate the turbulent market conditions that are inherent in this business and will remain a great place to work for pilots and others in the long term. That said, I certainly understand if some of you decide that your particular circumstances are leading you to pursue opportunities somewhere else.
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I mean I get it, but I've been a part of several coprorate layoffs in the non-aviation world. Never once did the company come out and say "hey, things are tough right now, and I get some of you are frustrated. If you're interested, here's another opportunity where your skills are needed." Instead, we just got a box to pack our stuff in why security watched over us.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I mean I get it, but I've been a part of several coprorate layoffs in the non-aviation world. Never once did the company come out and say "hey, things are tough right now, and I get some of you are frustrated. If you're interested, here's another opportunity where your skills are needed." Instead, we just got a box to pack our stuff in why security watched over us.
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Meh… I’ve been involved in a couple of those situations as a Pilot, maybe if they had a a lead on a real opportunity they would have spoken up.
 
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