PlaneFan82
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You have to pay for pre-check. You can usually go through any airline employee crew line, but you cannot go through a KCM checkpoint.
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Socks and sandals
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Thanks much.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
If you're going to pay for PreCheck, get Global Entry instead. It includes Pre.
PlaneFan82
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Mainline_or_bust
Airplanes fly on PFM, Change my mind
It's Official, Local TSA have been told they cannot allow anyone not in a "flight uniform" through the crew line in my station. I even talked to the TSA manager about it. I have to go through the regular line every time, but I don't need a boarding pass. I tried the same stuff as usual but got shut down a week or two ago. He said that TSA and all of the airlines agreed that for the benefit of commuters those were the rules. I told him that to the airlines anyone capable of occupying a jumpseat cabin or cockpit would be basically defined as a commuter, which would include me. Regular employees, such as gate agents, are cabin seat only and therefore cannot really commute to a job, airlines don't want them using crew lines.
Basically I played the common sense card in about 10 different ways, he played the I don't make the rules card in the same way for 10 responses. There is no winning with these people
Basically I played the common sense card in about 10 different ways, he played the I don't make the rules card in the same way for 10 responses. There is no winning with these people
manniax
Well-met in the Ka-tet
I use airline employee lines quite often actually. Never had any issues doing so whether I was traveling on company business or my own. Often I am directed to use them by TSA employees if I'm wearing my ID. And airline ID is one of the listed accepted methods of ID that can be used at airport security checkpoints.
Luigi
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Unless you're in CLT; where the rules don't matter and the TSA just makes up their own. I've never had more problems in my life than trying to Jumpseat out of CLT.
PlaneFan82
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DCA is pretty crummy also. This where Pre-Check comes into play. Unless we can get into KCM and commute out of a KCM airport, this BS is going to continue.
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Mainline_or_bust
Airplanes fly on PFM, Change my mind
If I had a uniform to put on that made it clear I was a jumpseating dispatcher then I would, trust me. I just want equal consideration at the airport when I am in fact a commuting jumpseater.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
And you're getting it. As a commuting crew member myself, when I don't wear a uniform, I get treated just like any other passenger. Just like you do. No uniform, no special treatment.
PlaneFan82
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I think what this individual is getting at is as a pilot, you have the option to commute either in uniform or in civvies. As a dispatcher, we are already in uniform (typically khakis and a collar) when we clear security, and while we are conforming with uniform requirements, we are restricted from using a crew lane and receiving the same considerations as those who have to pass the same 10 year background check.
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Mainline_or_bust
Airplanes fly on PFM, Change my mind
If I'm wearing business casual then I'm in work clothes. It's my "uniform", that's why I want to be treated just like a pilot in uniform, because I have no other choice. It's funny though because if I worked for a company that said I had to wear a FO uniform as a dispatcher, TSA would let me through no problem. You, like TSA, are hung up on the flight crew uniform part of the crew line. We'll have to agree to disagree I think on this one
PHL_Approach
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Yea that sign was changed soon after the FAA Inspector was found with a weapon on him trying to travel out of ATL and that was in addition to the employee there caught smuggling guns between ATL-NY a few months prior. They really tightened ones ability to use that line.
North Terminal Employee line was the fastest line in the facility. Longest I ever had to wait was 10 minutes and that was during shift change for Concourse Shop employees. After they stopped allowing employees flying out through that line and I started having to go through Gen Pop line it would never take less than 35 minutes.
Often times you could count the TSO's that were standing around near the "ID Checkers" which there would be three. 1 for Pre-Check/Employee Line. 1 for Gen Pop Line and 1 for what I guess was like a Senior/Wheelchair Line. Numerous passengers would flip their $%*t when they got up there after waiting 35-40 minutes.
I Witnessed one guy tell two TSO's standing around that he'd be talking to the Shift Managers and just berated them for the slowness of the checkpoint. Sure enough when I got to the other side he had all three Managers in their suits down off their watch tower podium thing. Horribly inefficient. Couldn't wait for the day I knew would be my last commute out of ATL. After doing it a few months after getting a new job in another City. Amazing how that checkpoint ran like a well oiled machine for 4 years I lived in ATL and flew out as a jumpseater for personal travel and now it just creeps along.
belgiumania
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For God sakes, please don't give management any ideas.
belgiumania
Well-Known Member
Even better, get the NEXUS card. It's only $50 for the same time period and it includes all of the above plus expedited land crossings to Canada.
Luigi
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I can see why that would come in handy, for someone that lives in Seattle.
