Here's the 'Disappointing' and 'Prohibited' Way Some American Airlines Flight Attendants Make Extra Money

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This is a story about American Airlines, flight attendants, simple economics, and the 21st-century proclivity so many of us share: finding side hustles and trying to make a little extra money.
It's also about "prohibited" practices, the risk of getting fired for pushing things too far, and the law of unintended consequences.
Let's start with the flight attendants and the scheme some of them came up with, according to both American Airlines and their own union.
In short, some senior flight attendants figured out a way to use their tenure to their monetary advantage.
It's pretty simple, actually. Flight attendants bid each month on the routes they want to fly for the airline. Their requests are granted, based largely on seniority.

Thus, the longest-serving flight attendants get the best routes. By "best," we mean both the most interesting and exotic -- think longer, international trips to South America or Asia, as opposed to an overnight in Omaha (no offense to readers in Omaha) -- but also the most financially rewarding.

So, according to both the airline and the union, senior flight attendants in some cities started bidding on the most desirable trips even when they had no intention of flying them.
Then, they'd turn around and sell those winning bids to more junior flight attendants.
It's not the first time this practice has come to light. In 2018, American Airlines chided flight attendants who were selling their bids -- and reportedly making an average of $200 for each flight.
But, in the wake of the pandemic, and the fact that there are now fewer coveted flights, it apparently became a lot easier for the airlines to track the practice. So, both American Airlines and the union have issued stern warnings.
"Management has made it clear that this illicit trip activity is prohibited," the union cautioned its members this week, according to the flight attendant site, Paddle Your Own Kanoo. "If you are trading or dropping trips outside of the intended means of our scheduling systems, you will be subject to discipline, up to and including termination."
On Friday, the airline itself chimed in, according to View From the Wing:
While it's disappointing that some of your co-workers choose to manipulate our systems for personal gain, we also know the vast majority of you play by the rules.
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Simply put, if it's proven you're abusing our systems, the consequences would most likely be career-ending.
I suspect it wasn't the junior flight attendants who complained, but rather the ones who had just-enough seniority that they would have been able to bid on those more desirable flights, but for the fact that their more senior colleagues were bidding on them just to sell them.

Regardless, it would seem that the game is likely up, with American Airlines specifically putting jobs on the line. And, I think there are three big takeaways for business leaders in any industry:
  • First, be on the lookout for cliques, and the ways that some employees might be taking advantage of others.
  • Next, be wary of accidentally creating a marketplace. The whole reason this situation seems to exist at the airline is because of what seems to be the unintended consequence of perks designed to protect and reward seniority.
  • Finally, don't be afraid to drop the hammer when you determine that some team members are gaming the system, especially to the detriment of their colleagues.
I reached out to American Airlines for comment, but haven't heard anything back. Still, this whole entrepreneurial escapade only reinforces what I explain in my free ebook, Flying Business Class: 12 Rules for Leaders From the U.S. Airlines, which is that if you were to pick one U.S. industry that people in others businesses should follow and learn from, it's the airline industry.
Think about it: a giant, commodity industry in which all the big players are publicly traded and followed closely by analysts and journalists, and in which they face most of the same issues your business likely faces.
They just do it on a larger stage, and with more people watching -- sometimes, apparently, even including their own employees.
 
Figured this was pretty commonplace tbh. That’s why all of those FaceSpace trade board groups exist


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Can someone explain how this is different/worse than the standard practice of putting extra money on tradeboard trip to get someone to pick it up? It’s very common at the regionals although less and less common for pilots since pay rates are so high now that you would have to put a ludicrous amount of money on it to entice someone to pick it up.
 
I imagine it's something like the company has a position of, "We value certainty and stability as much as possible, and each change to plans costs us some incremental amount. From a company culture perspective, we don't like that there's a formal organization influencing our resources/operation outside of the candyasses in the c-suite (if anyone is gonna monetize it, they demand a taste)."
 
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Can someone explain how this is different/worse than the standard practice of putting extra money on tradeboard trip to get someone to pick it up? It’s very common at the regionals although less and less common for pilots since pay rates are so high now that you would have to put a ludicrous amount of money on it to entice someone to pick it up.
that was my first thought as well.

I take it as, that’s me paying you to take my trip. Not me charging you to take a trip from me. In other words, “I don’t want it, so I’ll pay you to take it. Not, “you want it so bad, pay me for it.” Hopefully that makes sense.
 
Devils advocate...


Why is this an issue? Seniority is still king. It doesn't matter what I plan to do with my trip(s). I was senior enough to bid and hold them in the first place, then it becomes my business. If I give it or trade to a "friend" who is much more junior, that's between the friend and I.
 
Can someone explain how this is different/worse than the standard practice of putting extra money on tradeboard trip to get someone to pick it up? It’s very common at the regionals although less and less common for pilots since pay rates are so high now that you would have to put a ludicrous amount of money on it to entice someone to pick it up.
I mean that’s kind of the opposite isn’t it? And that’s usually the result of a system that in theory allowed pilots to drop trips, but I’m practice never does for staffing. That’s costing the pilot money just trying to get the trip off.

What I don’t get is how much are FAs paying for these trips, and how much are they worth? It seems like pay wise it would cancel out for somebody, either the FA “selling” the trip since they lose the pay and recoup it from what the other FA pays them, but then isn’t the FA who picked it up essentially working the trip for free? Either way, seems like a really stupid way to get fired.
 
Who else thought this article was going to be about OnlyFans?

All of JC….
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In a previous life, an FA got canned for bringing her own booze, refilling the minis and pocketing the money.

Some shops, with flexible swap boards and trip trade policies have “cartels”, where senior pilots bid good trips out of open time they have no intention of flying to “park” the trip while their buddies in the cartel do other line manipulation, then they swap the trip out.

Any system you can come up with can get gamed out by folks flying 12-16 hour legs.
 
that was my first thought as well.

I take it as, that’s me paying you to take my trip. Not me charging you to take a trip from me. In other words, “I don’t want it, so I’ll pay you to take it. Not, “you want it so bad, pay me for it.” Hopefully that makes sense.
I absolutely hate being on-call, I would routinely pay others to take mine, usually at least half of what the company paid. I never failed to find someone willing. I haven't had an on-call shift in years. I know it's the opposite of what the flight attendants are doing, but you pick pick your poison and take it or figure out a way around it. I discussed my dealings with my management and they didn't mind as long as someone would answer the phone.
 
Can someone explain how this is different/worse than the standard practice of putting extra money on tradeboard trip to get someone to pick it up? It’s very common at the regionals although less and less common for pilots since pay rates are so high now that you would have to put a ludicrous amount of money on it to entice someone to pick it up.
Is that really a 'standard' practice? 'cause:

What I don’t get is how much are FAs paying for these trips, and how much are they worth? It seems like pay wise it would cancel out for somebody, either the FA “selling” the trip since they lose the pay and recoup it from what the other FA pays them, but then isn’t the FA who picked it up essentially working the trip for free? Either way, seems like a really stupid way to get fired.
If you put "regional FO" in there in place of FA, it works out the same. Here I just yeet whatever I want into open time because, well, that's a contractual right; at old-job, "forget it" and you'd have to post things, or visit the Platinum Schedule Modification Bank to get that done.
 
Is that really a 'standard' practice? 'cause:


If you put "regional FO" in there in place of FA, it works out the same. Here I just yeet whatever I want into open time because, well, that's a contractual right; at old-job, "forget it" and you'd have to post things, or visit the Platinum Schedule Modification Bank to get that done.
Standard practice at terribly staffed regionals, yes.
 
How does this work? Ashley is scheduled, Madison shows up. Does Madison just show up and announce she's covering for Ashley? At what point is Madison responsible to the company for making the flight?
 
How does this work? Ashley is scheduled, Madison shows up. Does Madison just show up and announce she's covering for Ashley? At what point is Madison responsible to the company for making the flight?

Well the thing to know about Ashley and Madison is either way, somebody is getting screwed over…


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How does this work? Ashley is scheduled, Madison shows up. Does Madison just show up and announce she's covering for Ashley? At what point is Madison responsible to the company for making the flight?

I would imagine that they trip trade all legit and above board, it's just that under the table the junior F/A is sending the senior F/A some scratch to sign off on it.
 
I would imagine that they trip trade all legit and above board, it's just that under the table the junior F/A is sending the senior F/A some scratch to sign off on it.

121 trivia for $50, Jack. I didn't know FA's could trade trips in this manner. That said, who wants to sell me a buddy pass?

I guess it's like 135 cargo, nobody really cares which guy in the North Face jacket shows up to fly.
 
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