Bandit_Driver
Gold Member
Here's one that is driving my nuts.
Our 727's are RVSM capable with RNAV for enroute procedures only. Our OPS Spec prohibit us from using RNAV for approaches, SID, & STARS.
It seems that every time we are going to major airfield ORD, JFK, IAD, etc we get a RNAV STAR from clearance delivery. Of course we tell them we cannot accept it and then 10 - 15 minutes later they come back with a new route.
Once airborne and nearing the destination every controller tries to assign us the RNAV arrivial. Of course we tell them can't accept. Now hearing the frustration in their voice we usually get a delay vector, sometimes 180 degree turn off our route.
What gives...Why can't ATC deal with old jets? Is there something better than /Q to file for this old bird?
Our 727's are RVSM capable with RNAV for enroute procedures only. Our OPS Spec prohibit us from using RNAV for approaches, SID, & STARS.
It seems that every time we are going to major airfield ORD, JFK, IAD, etc we get a RNAV STAR from clearance delivery. Of course we tell them we cannot accept it and then 10 - 15 minutes later they come back with a new route.
Once airborne and nearing the destination every controller tries to assign us the RNAV arrivial. Of course we tell them can't accept. Now hearing the frustration in their voice we usually get a delay vector, sometimes 180 degree turn off our route.
What gives...Why can't ATC deal with old jets? Is there something better than /Q to file for this old bird?