Douchey Pilot Things. A list

Acrofox said:
I don't drink. That would make you not trust me?

To put it a different way: You're refusing to trust someone because they don't conform to harmful norms. Is that really how that's supposed to go?
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I admit, I was a bit obtuse in my verbiage. So I'll forego the "lighten up Francis" quip. However, I expected pilots to have a bit more well developed sense of snark. (Also, see @Wardogg's historical references.)
 
knot4u said:
I'll once again say I've never actually worked on a 121 airplane, all of my experience is 135, 145 or 91. I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.
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Yeah, what @BobDDuck said. If I found one in the gear, I wouldn't touch it. Write it up and call mx. We would assume there's something going on mx wise that wasn't written up properly. MX would have to come out and confirm that all was well then remove the pin. Only time I touch 'em is to count them in the cockpit during pre-flight (originating / receiving).
 
web265 said:
Yeah, what @BobDDuck said. If I found one in the gear, I wouldn't touch it. Write it up and call mx. We would assume there's something going on mx wise that wasn't written up properly. MX would have to come out and confirm that all was well then remove the pin. Only time I touch 'em is to count them in the cockpit during pre-flight (originating / receiving).
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Exactly this. The only interaction with gear pins I’ve had beyond looking at them was at compass. We’d occasionally be tasked with moving an airplane from the gate to the Mx hanger. When we pulled in the techs wanted us to drop the pins out the window to them so they could start getting them in while we waited for the stairs. Even that I feel like was pushing the boundaries of our responsibility.
 
Arguing about how other people apply the policies and procedures of their company is coming daaaaaangerously close to doucheyness.

You don't wanna make the list do ya? ;)
 
web265 said:
Yeah, what @BobDDuck said. If I found one in the gear, I wouldn't touch it. Write it up and call mx. We would assume there's something going on mx wise that wasn't written up properly. MX would have to come out and confirm that all was well then remove the pin. Only time I touch 'em is to count them in the cockpit during pre-flight (originating / receiving).
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Makes sense, as it’s unusual for you to see pins installed, so to see them there would be cause to wonder why they are in. Of course, I’d hope you wouldn’t ever see only one pin installed…..that is, either all installed or none are installed. :). Good thing is, if you saw it, you could at least know instantly if something is up or not…if the pin is in and still freely moves in the the pin hole, that’s a good thing. If the pin is solid with zero play and seems jammed in there……no bueno.

poser765 said:
Exactly this. The only interaction with gear pins I’ve had beyond looking at them was at compass. We’d occasionally be tasked with moving an airplane from the gate to the Mx hanger. When we pulled in the techs wanted us to drop the pins out the window to them so they could start getting them in while we waited for the stairs. Even that I feel like was pushing the boundaries of our responsibility.
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In your case here, just taxiing the jet from the gate to the hangar and no intent for flight, couldn’t Mx have installed the pins at the gate and just had you taxi with the pins in to the hangar? Rather than having you drop them out a window? Aircraft taxi or are towed with pins installed and no issue.
 
MikeD said:
Makes sense, as it’s unusual for you to see pins installed, so to see them there would be cause to wonder why they are in. Of course, I’d hope you wouldn’t ever see only one pin installed…..that is, either all installed or none are installed. :). Good thing is, if you saw it, you could at least know instantly if something is up or not…if the pin is in and still freely moves in the the pin hole, that’s a good thing. If the pin is solid with zero play and seems jammed in there……no bueno.



In your case here, just taxiing the jet from the gate to the hangar and no intent for flight, couldn’t Mx have installed the pins at the gate and just had you taxi with the pins in to the hangar? Rather than having you drop them out a window? Aircraft taxi or are towed with pins installed and no issue.
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They certainly could have. My guess is they didn’t want to break mx off of other tasks at the gate to come put the pins in.
 
Roger Roger said:
I think the exception should be if they are obviously quoting the Lego airline pilot videos.
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Since we're talking about Lego, thought I post some pictures I took Monday. FWIW I'm over 6'-2" and batman is taller than me.

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trafficinsight said:
One time an FO brought me a set of gear pins and I went to stow them only to find.... they were already stowed.

Some mechanic had his own set of pins... which if you want field returns is how you get field returns!
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If I found pins installed in my airplane I’d finish my walk around. Walk up into the cockpit and either tell the captain or if the captain wasn’t there I’d call maintenance.

Then I’d go back to looking at my phone until the pins weren’t installed.


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Prepping in the van isn’t douchey, but I’m not doing it. If you want to feel free. What I notice more so is guys do this then say the same things or brief same thing 3x because they did the whole thing in the van already. And let’s be honest, you don’t have the attention of your crew in the van. Nor should you expect to, IMO. Just let people relax on their way to work. It’s like going over spreadsheets on your commute when you have an hour before the meeting. Just my 2c.
 
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