Cherokee_Cruiser
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Umm. I mean…
Captain Positions Offered to New Hires
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Umm. I mean…
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
exactly
2015:"we'd never deign you could fly a jet at our company, we're the highest and most professional pilots the world has ever seen! come back when you magically acquire crew time at your largely single pilot job."
2023, apparently: "can you finish fogging this partially fogged mirror? here, I'll get it started for you!"
Hire 'em all and let OE sort 'em out!
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
The SkyWest F/O Staffing Strategy
ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
I mean, you laugh, but.... yeah, lol. The market has changed immeasurably since 2014/2015 or so.
I remember being told in 2014 that I wasn't qualified for a job as a copilot in a charter Beech Jet when I had 4,000 hours, about 1000 MTPIC, and was working in management.
"But does he have crew time?!" Uhh, yeah he does! "But is it crew jet time?" Well, no, it's not. "See, not ready for us!"
Oh I wasn't making a joke at all, trust me.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
JetBlue Airways was the same way, circa 2014; I think I hit submit and about 10 min later came the "no u" message. My, how the turntables or whatever.
I can (and do) do this for free and on the regular, simply because I dislike the snake-oil firms that much. I don't have snake-oil to sell, but I can at least check spelling, grammar, look for obvious errors, polish that cannonball, etc.
A certain AAirline does this at the risk of having to march people into the principal's office when the background reveals something different than the application. I mean, hypothetically...(also the immunity is in the statute, for the 10,000th time).
guywhoflies
Y'NO WUT IM SAYIN
Alaska is a legacy airline.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
I will never recommend an app service. I would offer (and do as well) my services long before getting to that point as well. When I made that mistake I was told two things.
You need to be consistent with addresses. For example having one say "Road" but another say Dr. Is inconsistent. Either have them all abbreviated or written out. I doubt they really care in HR.
The other was "you need to make your job descriptions better." No hints or ideas to make them better. They just told me something I already knew. Fixing them was a reason I hired them.
The experience was a complete waste of time and money. Also funny story. I never fixed my job descriptions and had one without a job description.
It really seems incredibly stupid telling someone what your job entails when it is essentially the exact job you are applying for at their company. How many different ways can you explain that you take people and things from A to B?
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Legacy hire is also the term used for the two youngest dudes in my class.
No saltiness against either of them, but just a reply in reference to tall doug
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Especially the one who “did time” flying the Hundo for Ace Air
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
My description of this job says “flying a 767-400 a little bit of north, south, east, and west,” because I was out of words.
Roger Roger
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I did use a resume review but honestly no idea if it actually did anything. Got the job tho
ClearedForOption
Psychiatric Help 5¢
You are in piping. Aluminum Tube relocation specialist.
phill1174
Well-Known Member
It all seems like common sense but people swear by these services. When I recently heard how much people were spending in prep (1-2K) my jaw dropped. For whomever it get the job I guess it was drop in the bucket.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
I had people tell me I needed to buy prep so that when I get an interview I will be ready. Of course many years past before I finally got an interview. I did not buy a prep service till I had an interview lined up and I wouldn't recommend buying till you have an interview set up.
I found Emerald Coast to work for me. The best benefits from the service was getting my initial life story worked out and listening to others talk about their experiences. It helped me jog my memories and even realize a lot of my best stories can fit in multiple buckets for questions and scenarios.
Of course if I didn't get hired they offered a full refund. I figured it was a low risk investment at that point.
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
As far as interview prep, my interview prep was working 6 weeks straight including the last 4 weeks on nights, except for one night I took off because we lost a beloved pet. I figure either they were desperate, or they weren’t lying when they said they wanted us to just be ourselves because at that point there was no mental bandwidth left to put on an interview persona.
JDean3204
Well-Known Member
I didn’t prep for it either, people put so much weight into what they look like on paper then show up to interviews like robots. I just showed up, smiled, talked to everyone I could and told them my story, the good, the bad and what I’ve learned so far in life as a pilot and a human. Seemed to work, and it didn’t feel like I faked my way into a job either. If I’m myself, and a company doesn’t want me then it’s best for both of us. As hard as it is to see all that potential money on the table walk away.
