I don’t think yeeting back on the stick and trying to turn with rudder is a recipe for success
LOL not at the same time. Yeeting just to get the speed for a minimum radius turn, then rudder along with dipping the wings to start a turn that you bank into while diving...obviously you dont' want to spin into the ground for instadeath
. When I get to above the stall speed, I then shove the nose down and the rest of the maneuver is flown in a smoothly but positively controlled dive and roll back to the runway. The bank helps kill speed, so you don't need to get ALL the way to min radius turn speed, you want to hit that while starting the turn so you still have energy to turn. Maybe I didn't explain it well via text, but I'm alive right so obviously I didn't do what you are thinking LOL. Its honestly a lot of fun when it isn't life or death.
MSFS has very realistic physics like X-Plane has for years before it, so it makes a good GA training tool compared to all the older Mircosoft sims and Prepar3D. Obviously, its more jerky trying to fly a sim than real life, but this is basically what I was doing between 400-500ft AGL in 75-80kt climbs. Dump the flaps once slowing into the white arc for lift to float you along. This is the current wx with lights winds out of the West, as per usual at that airport. Obviously you need to get pretty low to get enough energy, so this would not be a good thing to practice at urban airfields lol.
Agree with the professor, slow quickly, lots of bank and don't waste time. Most importantly, turn into the wind.
Yes I left that important part out, he did say turn into the wind if possible. I practiced it 3-4 times two separate times at the same airport. One time was near calm winds, the other time was a 6kt x-wind which was a quartering tailwind coming back. It never felt like I was putting the aircraft in danger, but I had no obstructions with the airport surrounded by rural fields and of course I had my hand on the throttle as a working engine could quickly fix things if I were to be short. 172s have a good glide ratio though, I'll bet had I tried this in the Grumman Tiger I used to fly or a Hershey Bar wing Piper, it would have been more difficult. One of these times was during a checkout, I don't fly with CFIs much so I try and do weird stuff when I have one that I'd like to practice.
But like I said in my first post, I would ONLY try this if I thought it was better then landing somewhere more straight ahead that would give myself more time to set up for. If there is an open field between your 9 and 3 O'clock, that is going to be a better option than hoping you nail some maneuver with no power to get yourself out of it. Almost every airport I regularly operate out of has places to put it down making a turn at low altitude a bad option. But, sometimes what lies ahead is no bueno. So I think GA pilots should be exposed to this, even if only to reinforce their fears in such a maneuver lol.