AA Hiring Soon
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GroundPilot
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Highly doubt it.
I had a feeling it would be 7/8 Envoy when speaking with someone who applied.
captaindispatch
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Did any internals get hired? Or was this class all external?
MountainsOrBeach
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Hearing at least 2 internals did get offers. Not sure they’re done making all offers yet though. Have only heard through the grapevine, 7 envoy and 2 internals so far.
777DXER
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Truly.. I can tell you. If you are related to someone in AA dispatch and under 50 years old. You stand an excellent chance at getting into AA dispatch. A few of the Envoy that were selected are related to AA DX people. And AA likes to hire young. Legal/Illegal? I don’t know. I know the last 30 people that have gone to AA DX from envoy, none over 30 years old and as young as 23 (related to AA DX who had just comped out.) Just keeping it real. Good luck all.
Flagship_dxer
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Thats why I say not to consider AA dispatch if you are older than 30. You will never be able to hold a regular line on the most desirable desks. It wont be long before we have a 10 to 15 year wait on regular relief to hold junior domestic and coordinator lines.
1 B6 that I know of received an offer
I don't think you understood my post. What I was trying to say is that even if your resume indicates 17 years experience, if it didn't indicate flightkeys experience it was triggering a TBNT message.
You have been saying this for a while and I am going to disagree. I am not familiar with the demographics of United, Delta, or Southwest, but I cannot imagine that they would be a lot different that AA. So what is true at AA may also be true at the other airlines. Also, there are plenty of dispatchers out there who for whatever reason are at carriers that are struggling and may not make it? Are you seriously going to tell a Spirit guy who may be on the street soon not to accept a job at AA over this issue? I would much rather be at AA with a junior schedule right now than at Spirit given everything happening. And if I am a regional guy and I turn down AA over this, there is no guarantee that I get hired elsewhere. Regardless of how bad the line is, a job at a Major is still a job at a Major and better than any regional Job any day of the year.
As for the new hire class coming in. Sounds like Feb 10 is now the class date. I am hearing three internals (all of whom came from Flight Planning Support and thus had Flightkeys exposure), a bunch of Envoys, and probably some Southwest/Jetblue as well. One scary thing that I have heard talking to people is Piedmont apparently now has informal veto power over getting hired at AA, and basically is telling AA not to hire their dispatchers. Not sure if PSA is in the same boat. As we all know, Envoy has produced a bunch of AA dispatchers over the years.
I agree. No matter what schedule you have to deal with the pay check is still the same.
gopherdx
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I don’t know… this is obviously subjective since everyone has different priorities in life but for me QOL > money. Knowing I’d be stuck on the midnight shift for the rest of my career or at least half of it would be a huge deterrent for me.
This is the kind of gate keeping that needs to end. Don't discourage people from applying or scare them into "you'll have a bad shift forever." I think you're just worried your OT is gonna disappear.
QOL is important and so is being able to pay the bills. It is hard to do that at a Regional depending on your situation. The sacrifice of a bad schedule for better financial security would be worth it, to me. But like you said, each person has their priorities.
Bananabusdx
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This is nothing new. It’s been that way for years.
MountainsOrBeach
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Being on relief at AA isn’t bad… in fact we have a few senior dispatchers that choose to be on relief so that they can make their schedule however they want and get every weekend or select days off. Almost every single month most lines have 5-7 days off at a time without having to use vacation or do trades. And if you can bid your lines correctly, you could double that back to back. It is definitely not the end of the world to be on relief. We currently have some 10-20 year dispatchers choosing relief over holding a line. The main downsides to relief is only knowing your schedule about 2 months out and not having the entire year already scheduled to be able to do trades further out.
Even if you do end up stuck on midnights, there are a ton of dispatchers that strongly prefer that shift. You get off at 0500 and can catch the first flights of the day out. If you’re able to fall asleep right after work and wake up anywhere between 1200-1500, you still have the entire rest of the day to go out or get things done before you have to work at 2100. It’s also a great schedule for people who want to commute in and out of state and not live in Dallas, Texas. Plenty of junior people are favoring midnights these days.
None of us know what the future holds. There could be another economic depression, 9/11 or pandemic laying off half of the staff. Or AI could reduce half of our departments eventually. There’s always doom and gloom that could cause issues down the road… It’s aviation.
Or you could just apply today in the present and have a career with great pay, only get scheduled 1750 hours a year (so you’re basically part time getting paid 6 figures), have a group of good coworkers around and then just wait for retirements to happen every year like they do and you will slowly move up.
Do what is right for you.
Even if you do end up stuck on midnights, there are a ton of dispatchers that strongly prefer that shift. You get off at 0500 and can catch the first flights of the day out. If you’re able to fall asleep right after work and wake up anywhere between 1200-1500, you still have the entire rest of the day to go out or get things done before you have to work at 2100. It’s also a great schedule for people who want to commute in and out of state and not live in Dallas, Texas. Plenty of junior people are favoring midnights these days.
None of us know what the future holds. There could be another economic depression, 9/11 or pandemic laying off half of the staff. Or AI could reduce half of our departments eventually. There’s always doom and gloom that could cause issues down the road… It’s aviation.
Or you could just apply today in the present and have a career with great pay, only get scheduled 1750 hours a year (so you’re basically part time getting paid 6 figures), have a group of good coworkers around and then just wait for retirements to happen every year like they do and you will slowly move up.
Do what is right for you.
Flagship_dxer
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I seldom work overtime. During covid, the junior 10-20% dispatchers were furloughed and the dispatchers just above them were junior manned into their midnight shifts. Seniority is important when times arent so good and movement slows down.