757 A/T failure

[bimmerphile]

i’m not watching the video, but the crew was in radar contact with a departure controller that has MVAs that aren't readily available and I assume getting vectors and we’re talking about names of hills?

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

Oh this subject is KILLING ME but everyone knows where I work so I don’t want to get quoted. Ha!

Might make for a good JC Happy Hour Zoom chat this weekend.

You need a sock puppet account

 

[tcco94]

Have you read the Air Wagner SOPs?

I would love to hear Wagner’s analysis on this!

 

[tcco94]

No. Just use common sense about the geographic area I’m in to request a safe altitude.

Didn’t ‘Arithmetic for Naval Aviators’ teach you Delta guys that?

No, but I can put it in your LOR that you read it. Big brownie points…

 

[derg]

I would love to hear Wagner’s analysis on this!

ATC: “I said S-turns, not a Split-S!”
Jerry: [naturally survives]

 

[tcco94]

ATC: “I said S-turns, not a Split-S!”
Jerry: [naturally survives]

Cameraman never dies!!! It’s the only logical answer at this point!

 

[derg]

No, but I can put it in your LOR that you read it. Big brownie points…

Savage!

 

[Kingairer]

Have you read the Air Wagner SOPs?

CONGRATULATIONS! Post of the year NOMINIEE!

 

[ERfly]

You need a sock puppet account

He doesn't work for FedEx.

IYKYK

 

[podrick]

Late to the party but if anyone’s wondering why troubleshoot with maintenance instead of run the QRH…

The QRH procedure for A/T disconnect is: “The auto throttle is disconnected.”

 

[Roger Roger]

Oh this subject is KILLING ME but everyone knows where I work so I don’t want to get quoted. Ha!

Might make for a good JC Happy Hour Zoom chat this weekend.

I’m 2 drinks in at dinner what time we doin this •

 

[DE727UPS]

Late to the party but if anyone’s wondering why troubleshoot with maintenance instead of run the QRH…

The QRH procedure for A/T disconnect is: “The auto throttle is disconnected.”

Which speaks to what a minor issue this should have been.

 

[jtrain609]

My knowledge of Mt. Diablo and SUNOL is because I used to instruct out there.

But someone has to recognize the need to have terrain up when drilling around at night working on a problem.

This could have easily been this generation’s “Eastern 401” where a very minor problem became a, well, appreciably bigger one.

Yes, but.

EGPWS makes these scenarios entirely different. While nobody wants to do escape maneuver, the chances of that happening again are lower.

 

[Maximilian_Jenius]

I actually find myself looking at the VFR one quite a bit, for landmarks approaching a city for landing.

Why? You're in a 737, with one-hundred fifty souls in back, you're IFR. You're under ATC guidance at all times. You're not getting flight following, lol? Not following why you're at all concerned about VFR, in a 121 environment. Someone correct me I guess.

 

[ChasenSFO]

I would love to hear Wagner’s analysis on this!

Probably similar to CCs but more use of "I" and "my".

Why? You're in a 737, with one-hundred fifty souls in back, you're IFR. You're under ATC guidance at all times. You're not getting flight following, lol? Not following why you're at all concerned about VFR, in a 121 environment. Someone correct me I guess.

I did lol at this but to be fair, additional SA that doesn't interfere with other duties is not a bad thing at the end of the day. Between comments like that and switching the display mode on the 320 to see the traffic around him to see what's close behind him if anything, I do at least appreciate his attempts at extra SA even if they're not required.

 

[SteveC]

Why? You're in a 737, with one-hundred fifty souls in back, you're IFR. You're under ATC guidance at all times. You're not getting flight following, lol? Not following why you're at all concerned about VFR, in a 121 environment. Someone correct me I guess.

I see what he’s saying. Even though you’re IFR, you’re still trying to get a visual on the field. Using landmarks shown on a VFR chart can be very helpful in doing so. “Airport should be two miles northeast of those large smokestacks I see over there…”

 

[Maximilian_Jenius]

I see what he’s saying. Even though you’re IFR, you’re still trying to get a visual on the field. Using landmarks shown on a VFR chart can be very helpful in doing so. “Airport should be two miles northeast of those large smokestacks I see over there…”

Do most 121 or 135 pilots actually carry a VFR chart around with them though? I only fly VFR and ended my FAA IFR subscription on Foreflight, long ago. Simply for non use.

 

[SteveC]

Do most 121 or 135 pilots actually carry a VFR chart around with them though? I only fly VFR and ended my FAA IFR subscription on Foreflight, long ago. Simply for non use.

Can’t answer for the 121 guys, but we had them easily available on the iPads.

 

[MikeD]

Do most 121 or 135 pilots actually carry a VFR chart around with them though? I only fly VFR and ended my FAA IFR subscription on Foreflight, long ago. Simply for non use.

I did in 135 back in the day, and in 121 now; because I went/go into fields with either no approaches or no ATC

 

[tcco94]

Late to the party but if anyone’s wondering why troubleshoot with maintenance instead of run the QRH…

The QRH procedure for A/T disconnect is: “The auto throttle is disconnected.”

Which speaks to what a minor issue this should have been.

You guys do realize there’s a video that tells you what the issue was and it wasn’t an auto throttle disconnect, right? They didn’t run the QRH for A/T disconnect…

Come on now