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FTFY.taking advantage of the lower cost to buy/rent property and then complaining about the noise is completely idiotic, inane, and makes you a piece of trash human being.
FTFY.taking advantage of the lower cost to buy/rent property and then complaining about the noise is completely idiotic, inane, and makes you a piece of trash human being.
The whole noise argument seems pretty disingenuous.
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Aircraft are generally around 60-80db depending on type and typical distances. Cumulative traffic on a city street? 80-90 or more. California Interstate??? A train passing would be about 100db, as would a blow-dryer. A jackhammer around 115. Car horn? Around 110-115. Lawnmower? 90-100. So good thing there are none of those things in or around Santa Monica. And, by Zeus, good thing there are Harley's or Deep Bass Thump-mobiles in California!
Also, when was the last time a jurisdiction gave up a public road so that somebody could build Condos? This is public infrastructure (federal public infrastructure mostly) which is albeit largely the domain of rich folk right now. But with all the current rapid and accelerating changes in aircraft systems, it seems a bit foolhardy to give up infrastructure that might soon be very useful to the masses in places like SMO and many others. Not that SMO really has all that big a "the masses" problem. Like I said, disingenuous. I smell money.
Quiet down you dang kids, with your rock music and Mad DogsThe whole noise argument seems pretty disingenuous.
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Aircraft are generally around 60-80db depending on type and typical distances. Cumulative traffic on a city street? 80-90 or more. California Interstate??? A train passing would be about 100db, as would a blow-dryer. A jackhammer around 115. Car horn? Around 110-115. Lawnmower? 90-100. So good thing there are none of those things in or around Santa Monica. And, by Zeus, good thing there are Harley's or Deep Bass Thump-mobiles in California!
Also, when was the last time a jurisdiction gave up a public road so that somebody could build Condos? This is public infrastructure (federal public infrastructure mostly) which is albeit largely the domain of rich folk right now. But with all the current rapid and accelerating changes in aircraft systems, it seems a bit foolhardy to give up infrastructure that might soon be very useful to the masses in places like SMO and many others. Not that SMO really has all that big a "the masses" problem. Like I said, disingenuous. I smell money.
Isn't the FAA supposed to promote a Aviations?
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This. Not a fan. Had to divert to BUR because SoCal won't let you circle to 3 out of the VOR-A.In my experience, this place is anything but friendly to outside traffic. No approaches allowed at night (including visuals), the place is like a ghost town at night, people have to stop their plane in the taxi way and get out to push it in a parking spot because there's no room, and leaving the approach controllers are about worthless and make a 20 second exchange into a 3 minute conversation. It seems like the local FAA personnel here have no desire to make things friendly or keep it open either.
Now we need to get a concerned citizens group going in Aspen...
What's wrong with aspen?
I hear the beer flows like wine and the women flock like the salmon of Capistrano.What's right with Aspen?
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What's right with Aspen?
It would make a great day VFR only airport.
I hear the beer flows like wine and the women flock like the salmon of Capistrano.