XJT AIP

There has been a lot of smack out of xjt over the years about how great the union is. If this turd passes, Im never gonna be able to stop shaking my head in sadness at what a joke airline unions are (at least at the regional level). Im glad to hear that the good guys on this board have a clue, but Im a little worried about the rest of the group. You guys ARE NOT psa, pinnacle, gojet, mesa etc. Keep your dignity.
 
jtrain609 said:
It's not the only one.
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Hootie said:
There has been a lot of smack out of xjt over the years about how great the union is. If this turd passes, Im never gonna be able to stop shaking my head in sadness at what a joke airline unions are (at least at the regional level). Im glad to hear that the good guys on this board have a clue, but Im a little worried about the rest of the group. You guys ARE NOT psa, pinnacle, gojet, mesa etc. Keep your dignity.
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Just to clarify. Keeping my dignity is: getting unemployment from the government and hopefully getting a job at the bottom of another regional, when I tell my bankrupt company to shove it...
 
cencal83406 said:
Just to clarify. Keeping my dignity is: getting unemployment from the government and hopefully getting a job at the bottom of another regional, when I tell my bankrupt company to shove it...
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Yes. Just because your company's management is a joke does not mean you need to agree to the road to serfdom. Eventually you need to act with dignity and figure out another path.
 
Hootie said:
Yes. Just because your company's management is a joke does not mean you need to agree to the road to serfdom. Eventually you need to act with dignity and figure out another path.
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Duly noted. I will also note that ALPA MEC's extended a hand to us offering slotting at our longevity / seniority, so that we could shut down a scum bag operation.

Oh wait.

I'll tell ya, my pay rate right now and 6 years of seniority is way better than the pay cut and reduction in seniority / days off at the bottom of some other list.
 
cencal83406 said:
Duly noted. I will also note that ALPA MEC's extended a hand to us offering slotting at our longevity / seniority, so that we could shut down a scum bag operation.
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I don't know what Hottie was implying. Anyway, I am sure that you do know that this industry works on seniority right? So, why then should another MEC give you slotting above their current pilots and would you, your union or company have supported another company that way? You guys did what was best for you at that time and lets just leave it at that. This is not to say that we are better than you or anything.

I hope that we can vote this down and let our union/management (well I guess they are the same now) what we think of this TA. Anyone else think that's wishful thinking?
 
Nick said:
Nope.



I would too, and I am.


But there is a difference between knowing approximately what the other person is doing on their flow or to setup something for a checklist, and to actually be assigned a flight in that seat.

Where I work, they used to do that. The problem was not when a captain who just upgraded got assigned a seat in the right seat, or a check airman who already flew regularly would get reassigned somehow to cover an FO flight. The problem was, they'd have a reserve who upgraded two years ago and barely even flew in the left seat more than 200-300 hours a year, and had not flown in the right seat in a year or two, get in the right seat and be fumbling their way through flows and checklists, let alone getting the sight picture from the right side back and smashing the landing in pretty hard.

The union and the company discussed it and decided it would never happen again except check airman performing check airman duties.
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I can personally vouch for this. :)
 
ross9238 said:
I hope that we can vote this down and let our union/management (well I guess they are the same now) what we think of this TA. Anyone else think that's wishful thinking?
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The question will be if enough XJT vote to overcome the 1800 ASA and XJT Sr CA yes votes. I'm guessing over 2200 no votes to accomplish this. Maybe more.
 
ComplexHiAv8r said:
The question will be if enough XJT vote to overcome the 1800 ASA and XJT Sr CA yes votes. I'm guessing over 2200 no votes to accomplish this. Maybe more.
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Already drinking the ERJ kool aid eh?

A lot of the guys on that side are great. But like a lot of the Skywest guys that irritate the crap out of me are the ones who think they don't work for another crappy regional.

This doesn't reflect my opinions on the TA or the TA we deserve, just a general observation.
 
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