XJT AIP

[Seggy]

I hope the second question was rhetorical.....

More sarcastically but you get the point

Adressing an earlier statement my theory is...The negotiating committee after years of work realizes they're not making any headway. The company and Union are clearly worlds apart. Rather than continuing on the same path, they put out this contract being virtually assured it will fail by a wide margin and at least introduce a new element into the negotiation.

Yep!

 

[The L Train]

Reserve Captains can be forced to fly as an FO up to 20 hours a month.

 

[Screaming_Emu]

Reserve Captains can be forced to fly as an FO up to 20 hours a month.

Screw that.

 

[Seggy]

Reserve Captains can be forced to fly as an FO up to 20 hours a month.

Wow.

Just like....

....wow....

 

[L-16B]

Yes. $0.25 an hour at my longevity.

Did you guys get back what you gave up in concessions from 2008 or are u still currently on the lower rates?

 

[Baronman]

Screw that.

As long as it's for CA pay that's actually a contract gain (at least in XJT's case). There was no limit before, you were still getting paid as a CA. Can't say it happened all that often, didn't really bother me although I know some guys get would around the axel over it.

 

[Baronman]

Did you guys get back what you gave up in concessions from 2008 or are u still currently on the lower rates?

Still at the lower rates. That miniscule raise JTrain quoted doesn't even get the pay near those levels.

 

[The L Train]

As long as it's for CA pay that's actually a contract gain (at least in XJT's case). There was no limit before, you were still getting paid as a CA. Can't say it happened all that often, didn't really bother me although I know some guys get would around the axel over it.

It's a loss on the ASA side. We didn't have that language before.

 

[jtrain609]

Did you guys get back what you gave up in concessions from 2008 or are u still currently on the lower rates?

Still lower.

 

[Jed1087]

It's a big no from me.

 

[hcaeborev]

So......

I've been seeing everyone complaining about the negative things. Is there actually anything in this thing that is a win?

It seems as if there is no proverbial "carrot" that mgmt threw in to sway people on the fence.

 

[skyw82]

Reserve Captains can be forced to fly as an FO up to 20 hours a month.

Putting aside the fact how unsafe that is. How is that even legal?

 

[Jed1087]

3.86 hrs min day I believe is the only good thing. Oh! And if you're furloughed you get a preferential interview at mainline.

 

[surreal1221]

So...... I've been seeing everyone complaining about the negative things. Is there actually anything in this thing that is a win? It seems as if there is no proverbial "carrot" that mgmt threw in to sway people on the fence.

Nope.

And there never was.

SkyWest Inc. knows what their next play is and I seriously doubt it depends on how the ExpressJet pilots respond to this TA.

Kep that in mind.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Putting aside the fact how unsafe that is. How is that even legal?

I seem to remember that if you're trained and checked for right seat duties, it's legal. (Seat- and task-dependent training accomplished = you're good to go.)

That doesn't mean it's a good idea, however.

 

[ComplexHiAv8r]

Do I need to get some and mail them out?

 

[surreal1221]

Yeah, sure. Why not.

Rubber bracelets are more awesome though.

 

[SeanD]

Get some stickers with the XJT logo that says "Nope!" stickerguy.com

 

[Skåning]

I'm voting NO

Industry leading concessionary contract

 

[Autothrust Blue]

I'm voting NO

Industry leading concessionary contract

"ILCC" for short.