What is this job to you?

What is this job to you?

  • Just a business decision. I’m in it for the money.

    Votes: 9 10.5%
  • I’ve loved airplanes since I was a kid, what else would I do?!

    Votes: 66 76.7%
  • I like my job, but I don’t geek out about airplanes or airline history.

    Votes: 25 29.1%

  • Total voters
    86
I flew with a Captain who wore sneakers (and seemed to have lost his hat, permanently) a few weeks ago.

Shoes don't necessarily make the man, but let's just say that in that case, they did.

Sounds like a commuter. Laced up and ready to Usain Bolt for that flight home. The hat is just drag/ liability for that up coming sprint.
 
as a cargo dawg on the 767 (yes, there is a lav in the flight deck. It’s not a big deal when there are less than or equal to one jumpseaters) I do a fair amount of deadheading. Delta is my preferred airline. That said, I have a theory I’d love to postulate- the angle a pilot tilts their hat up relative to the horizon directly correlates to how easy they must be to fly with. Amiright?
 
I flew with a Captain who wore sneakers (and seemed to have lost his hat, permanently) a few weeks ago.

Shoes don't necessarily make the man, but let's just say that in that case, they did.

Something my father told me is to look at a person through their shoes.

If a door to door salesman has worn shoes, he's had a hard life. if someone in finance has clean, mid-market shoes, they may be trustworthy. The only people that should have dirty, unkempt shoes are people working on a farm, unless trench warfare made a reappearance. :)
 
Something my father told me is to look at a person through their shoes.

If a door to door salesman has worn shoes, he's had a hard life. if someone in finance has clean, mid-market shoes, they may be trustworthy. The only people that should have dirty, unkempt shoes are people working on a farm, unless trench warfare made a reappearance. :)

Am I the only one who can't keep my shoes looking nice? It's hard to care when I look down and see all the scuffs and wear that occur shuffling from aircraft to aircraft and just constantly being on the move. We finally have a shoe shine station in the pilot resource room which is nice.

Doing the walk around with deice fluid, snow and sand everywhere doesn't help. Sorry I'm not going to travel with a shoe shine kit. Enough is enough.
 
Uniform violations? Another reason freight is great. Pretty much nobody cared up to a certain point. People started leaving their hat at home to that point the company took it out of the uniform standards. The MIA base decided ties were optional. I could never cross that line but thank goodness for clip ons. Never saw anyone wearing tennis shoes though once I forgot to pack my shoes and had to fly an initial leg in tennis shoes until I could find a shoe store. Bear in mind I was a commuter and went to and from in my civies on a paid ticket.
 
Am I the only one who can't keep my shoes looking nice?
No, especially if you’ve stomped in puddles of various ick which is not uncommon this time of year. I can tell when it’s “bad de-ice week” versus “these things have never been shined.”

One of the best things I’ve found is that if you shine them really well when new, it’s easier to keep or restore them to shiny-ish. There’s no cause to wear patent leather or something silly like that, but nice and functional shoes/boots (with nonskid soles) do exist.
 
I meant the Lulu specifically, but yes

Oh yeah, it was somewhere in the Widgetverse on Facebook.

So rebellious that you're going to spend more than the approved uniform pants because… suburban rebellion or something like that. :)
 
Uniform violations? Another reason freight is great. Pretty much nobody cared up to a certain point. People started leaving their hat at home to that point the company took it out of the uniform standards.

Delta: The Millennials Strike Back.
 
I'd like clarification. I was born in 1984 and turned 40 this year. What group am I? I was under the impression that @SteveC gave me honorary membership to the Boomer club :)
NFW*



[*that's my non-triggered response by the way. Or, at a minimum, I'm self-aware enough to realize that you button pushed, and my response was voluntary in spite of my understanding of your motives. Therefore you are required to reduce your smugness level by a minimum of 50%]
 
Pilots never disappoint on keeping up the image as the cheapest people on the planet. Not frugal, just flipping cheap.
Grandpa - beer fridge stocked with Hams, Old Milwaukee, Strohs, or whatever else was on sale. Drive 30 minutes to Riverside, MO to the discount cigarette place to save $3 on Winstons. Go out to eat at all you can eat places.

Also Grandpa - Let's go to the backyard hangar after dinner and go fly the (insert Chief/one of the Wacos/Howard DGA/Monoprep/Interstate Cadet/Bellanca Cruisemaster/Maule).

And his friends and 1950's-80's "Golden Age of Airline pilots" were no different. A strange breed.
 
Grandpa - beer fridge stocked with Hams, Old Milwaukee, Strohs, or whatever else was on sale. Drive 30 minutes to Riverside, MO to the discount cigarette place to save $3 on Winstons. Go out to eat at all you can eat places.
The Riverside Red X, a staple of the northland. My folks would shop there as well, best place in town for cheap beer and smokes.
 
@mikecweb @ERfly @A300Capt

As a guy who will probably never get the opportunity to fly one, besides that they look cool, what about the MD makes you speak so highly of them?
I can't say anything better than @A300Capt said!

She's a beast! Built rock solid. Feels like a solid airplane. I thought she hand flew great (although the MD-10-30 was the NICEST hand-flying airplane I've ever flown). The automation is indescribable! It still blows me away at how automated she is, especially considering when she was designed and built.

PROF blows VNAV out of the water. Nailed the altitude and the speed every time. I die a little inside each time I have to watch the sloppy autothrottles in the 767.

There was also a sense of accomplishment after a successful flight and a nice landing. She definitely made you work for it, especially the landing part! Landing wasn't easy to learn at first, but once you kinda have it dialed in, it was a good feeling. Rolling her on and seeing a good score come out of the printer after engine shutdown was a great sense of accomplishment. I still have the printout from my last MD-11 landing on my fridge...1.13Gs!

And, as has been stated multiple times, she just looks cool! She has a commanding ramp presence and is definitely a head-turner. I'll never forget pushing back out of MTY in an MD. We had to go there because of a gauge change. They hadn't seen an MD in years. They were all taking pictures of us as we pushed back and taxied away. No one does that in the "737 of Freight" (767).

And, yes, I have referred to her this whole post as "she". There are only two airplanes I consider worthy of a "she": Concorde and MD-11. Like a woman, she makes you smile and takes a piece of your heart. But also, you must respect her or she'll scorn you.
 
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