KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
A motorglider is designed to be flown as a glider. A balloon is not designed to be flown without gas. Not seeing the relevance.
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A motorglider is designed to be flown as a glider. A balloon is not designed to be flown without gas. Not seeing the relevance.
bLizZuE
Calling for engine starts en français
Intellectual discussion is off the table I guess.
Bumblebee
Commodore
exactly..not seeing the relevance of comparing shutting off the engine in an aircraft with the engine supposed to be running with one where it's perfectly acceptable to fly around without it running.
Heck I bet it's better to shut off the gas in a balloon than it is to shut of the engine on a Cessna.
The point was that this is now a discussion of apples, potatoes, and welding equipment.
bLizZuE
Calling for engine starts en français
I understand your correlation but reject the similarity of a Cessna with a purposeful engine shutdown. A motorglider was designed to climb on power and glide to land, the Cessna was designed to climb and land with power.
There is a reason engine-out landings is an emergency checklist and not a landing checklist in the Cessna.
rframe
pǝʇɹǝʌuı
LOL...what?
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
I'd put shutting an engine down in a Cessna as less dangerous than shutting the gas off in a balloon. Remember, you just shut down the only flight control a balloon has.
Bumblebee
Commodore
it's not going to just come falling down is it?
Well never mind, I was just saying that the comparison between a motorized glider has the same relevance.
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
Uhh, what do you think makes it fly? Magic?
*Disclaimer* By no means am I defending shutting an engine down in a single, unless the airplane is designed to.
Bumblebee
Commodore
yes magic.
no but it's not going to cool off so fast that it just falls, will it? I really don't know...
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
yes magic.
no but it's not going to cool off so fast that it just falls, will it? I really don't know...
It's going to come down, how quick, depends on the heat in the envelope and environmental conditions. Needless to say, given the choice, I'll dead stick a Cessna in everyday and twice on Sunday before I run out of gas in a balloon. At least with the Cessna I got options.
Bumblebee
Commodore
you a balloon pilot?
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
Former airship with many former coworkers who flew balloons.
bLizZuE
Calling for engine starts en français
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't. I don't think you understand, a balloon has one flight control, the heat of the air. Take that away, you have nothing. I'd say a balloon with no gas is similar to an airplane with no engine and the flight control lock installed.
rframe
pǝʇɹǝʌuı
Other than a 10:1 vs a 20:1 ratio, I see no difference between a a Cessna with the engine off and the motorglider with the engine off. Same physics, same controls, same options.
Bumblebee
Commodore
so both are emergencies....
Bumblebee
Commodore
uh wouldn't a motorized glider be able to..uh, glide and potentially fly with the correct conditions? A cessna isn't going to be able to do that, unless you happen to be on a mountain wave.
rframe
pǝʇɹǝʌuı
A Cessna will glide 10:1
A motor glider will glide 20:1
They are both gliding. It's just energy management.
