At least the Vegas ramp controllers are awesome.We had the worst push back I've seen yet, in Vegas. They turned us the wrong way, and then when the CA intervened, they began doing what I could best describe as s turns for forever. Then when we told them to just stop/hold, they kept doing the s turns. The whole time I was talking to ground trying to apologize and guess what this weirdo was going to do next. The ramp/ground lady finally just said "Eskimo, do whatever you want". It was cringey
At least the Vegas ramp controllers are awesome.
You pushback against your CA for such a simple request?
I push back on something like that.
Don't ever change. Please.
You pushback against your CA for such a simple request?
Same with MCOAustin has out grown it’s infrastructure and having uncontrolled ramp leads to stuff like this. Not a fan of SW antics and Virgin needs to relax.
theres nothing cringier than someone demanding we call ground for pushback when there’s no one else moving on the ramp, the 10-7 specifically says not to call for push and ground/tower/clearance is combined and atc is clearly busy. don’t add to their workload with nonsense.
It just let's ground know that you're incapable of reading and will have no idea what you're doing while at their airport.theres nothing cringier than someone demanding we call ground for pushback when there’s no one else moving on the ramp, the 10-7 specifically says not to call for push and ground/tower/clearance is combined and atc is clearly busy. don’t add to their workload with nonsense.
I push back on something like that.
I certainly wouldn’t. I found it annoying. But he’s the boss.
I'd say 99% of our CA's don't look to see if a push request is required. We have a little guide stating whether a ground/ramp/no call for push is required. "Pushback" may simply be the FO pointing out what's in the airline provided guide. I wouldn't beat a dead horse about it, but merely correcting the CA isn't the end of the world. If he/she still wants it, sure.
It’s worse when ATC has literally been yelling at people not to push.
Contrary to what my best bud in the whole world CC is implying I’ll still call. I just might mention that it’s not required and ATC is already hella mad about it.
A little SA goes a long way and all.
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ya or you can just like have ground or tower on speaker while sitting at the gate and listen to what's going on before you push so you have SA instead of making yourself a distraction for ATC but yeah when you fly GA next time let ground know you're taxiing from the tie downs to the fuel pumpIt’s worse when ATC has literally been yelling at people not to push.
Contrary to what my best bud in the whole world CC is implying I’ll still call. I just might mention that it’s not required and ATC is already hella mad about it.
A little SA goes a long way and all.
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You guys are cute. If you’re the FO, you’re making a courtesy call at AUS. It is literally the ONLY note under our Departures…
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