This is absolutely awesome. Take them for everything you can, lady!
But aside from my personal hatred for our evil Tex-ass overlords, it sounds like a reasonable suit to me. Hot tea shouldn't cause second degree burns through clothing.
Not trying to say anything about this Southwest case, but for those that think the McDonald's burn case was frivolous, do a Google image search for "Stella Liebeck vs Mcdonalds - Hot Coffee Documentary" and click on the second link. It has some pretty graphic pictures of the defendant's injuries. Coffee shouldn't do that.
And there's the end of hot liquids served on 121.
I had to do a presentation in an aviation law class almost identical to this, I believe it was in the 70s or 80s in a TWA airplane. Basically there is no real definition as to what "hot" is especially legally speaking.Because, you know, who knew that "hot tea" was, I dunno....HOT???
I'm curious if the temp of the drink served on the plane was any hotter than any hot drink she'd get anywhere else.
Why do they even serve drinks on airlines anyway? I've always thought it was a little stupid. Where else in society do you have people running around asking you for drink orders just because you happen to be sitting down for an hour or two? But, I guess if 121 stopped drink service it'd destroy the Giner Ale industry.
Does it matter though? If I order a hot drink, I naturally assume it will be to the point of boiling.
But aside from my personal hatred for our evil Tex-ass overlords, it sounds like a reasonable suit to me. Hot tea shouldn't cause second degree burns through clothing.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic, but given the lack of a tag, I assume no.
With that, or without that really, How is this a defensible suit?
We've all been there, spilled coffee in our laps while driving, it's hot, it hurts.
With a disclaimer like that...But aside from my personal hatred for our evil Tex-ass overlords,
On the contrary, sir, it absolutely should, or it isn't properly brewed.it sounds like a reasonable suit to me. Hot tea shouldn't cause second degree burns through clothing.
It's one of the reasons that I never, ever get (hot) tea when I'm up front. It's either:Indeed. As I mentioned above, a proper tea is served with water between 176 degrees and boiling. Anyone who drinks hot tea should definitely be aware of the fact that they are initially dealing with near boiling water.
This is going to be a really stupid question... do most transport category aircraft (or even bizjets, for that matter) have cupholders up front? I have around 10 hours in a 737 Level D sim (thanks to my stint as a network admin/web designer for FSI many moons ago at ERAU), but can't remember seeing anything up there. Because... I may need to rethink my career change possibilities if I can't have my coffee up there.It's one of the reasons that I never, ever get (hot) tea when I'm up front. It's either:
(1) Not brewed correctly and therefore disgusting, or
(2) If it is brewed correctly, then it's too damn hot to be safely had on the flight deck unless it's sat out and cooled down 50+ degrees fahrenheit.
(that, and it's summertime, in Palm Springs, with tiny packs, so being warm is the problem, not being cold)
The ERJ had great cup holders and most of the bigger machines that I've ridden up front in during my commutes are pretty well equipped cup holder wise for the guys flying. Even jumpseaters on the 767 and 777 have them.This is going to be a really stupid question... do most transport category aircraft (or even bizjets, for that matter) have cupholders up front? I have around 10 hours in a 737 Level D sim (thanks to my stint as a network admin/web designer for FSI many moons ago at ERAU), but can't remember seeing anything up there. Because... I may need to rethink my career change possibilities if I can't have my coffee up there.
Does SWA's first row not have the fold-out traytables built into the armrests? I've never flown SWA so I don't know.. but other than Eagle's older ATRs (built in the mid 80s) I've never seen a front seat row without fold-out traytables.
And yes, when you order hot tea... it's probably going to be, oh, I dunno, maybe HOT!!!
Indeed. As I mentioned above, a proper tea is served with water between 176 degrees and boiling. Anyone who drinks hot tea should definitely be aware of the fact that they are initially dealing with near boiling water.
I guess that is the divide, then, because apparently SWA doesn't actually brew the tea. They serve you water hot enough to brew it yourself, along with a tea bag and all the rest of the stuff you might need (sugar, etc.).No, proper tea is brewed at those temperatures, not served at those temperatures. Big difference.