Southwest Suspending hiring through 2024....

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Richman said:
We used to have to practice those in the sim, I s4!t you not. They had a little animated guy doing the wand twirl.

As a practical matter, powering back in BNA towards that giant sinkhole in the middle of the ramp was somewhat thought provoking.
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We had to do it at Executive in the ATR as it was certified for reverse taxi and the Ops Specs allowed it.
 
Richman said:
As @derg will probably attest, it takes a considerable amount of nudging (like from a bulldozer) to get me to say anything to anyone about whatever, but the closest I've come to "correcting" an FO was to tell one who was a little bit too "engaged" that he had to kick back and let the other people do their jobs. Calling catering 4 times doesn't make them come any faster. It was like watching someone continually mash the elevator button, and it was seriously starting to harsh my zen thing.
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This is true!

“Where’d you eat last night?”

“Oh, just grabbed some chow with Rich”

“What did he say about (hot topic)?”

“We just drank beer and talked about Battlestar Galactica and cats”
 
killbilly said:
I like to hand-fly. And I would hand-fly more, but I've gotten a very distinct impression from a number of my Captains that:
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Some good advice I got from an instructor captain was to bring up the break from normal ops during the approach briefing. If I’m going to kick off the A/T, mention that so they know. I’ve found on trips when we as a crew are meshing well; me flying a little outside the usual AP off at 1,000 is supported.
 
Richman said:
We used to have to practice those in the sim, I s4!t you not. They had a little animated guy doing the wand twirl.

As a practical matter, powering back in BNA towards that giant sinkhole in the middle of the ramp was somewhat thought provoking.
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"1.4! Feet on the floor!"
 
Kingairer said:
Let me make you feel more like an old man yelling at clouds...I flew the Allegheny Livery plane last week and no one other than myself in the crew of 6 knew what it was, and one new FA saying " I was wondering how to pronounce that".
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That is a damned travesty.

If for no OTHER reason than how the Allegheny Mohawk labor protective provisions affect pilot groups during a merger.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
That is a damned travesty.

If for no OTHER reason than how the Allegheny Mohawk labor protective provisions affect pilot groups during a merger.
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Ive gotten a couple lately that really had no knowledge of the AmericaWest/USAirways merger. Its Bizzare. But considering we've hired someone that was born in 2000, they wouldve been 5 years old when AWest and USAirways came together I guess its becoming old news (and maybe thats not *all* bad).
 
killbilly said:
So this is just a teeny, tiny, partial de-rail, but I'd like to ask a general question of the more seasoned Captains out there, since I'm a pretty inexperienced FO.

I like to hand-fly. And I would hand-fly more, but I've gotten a very distinct impression from a number of my Captains that:

1) It makes more work for them and they really don't like it.
2) A lot of them seem to think that turning off the automation means I don't know how to use it.

So when I get those vibes I tend to go the way I'm perceiving that the CA wants, despite my preference to do otherwise. In the case of Item 2, I don't really press the issue, I just kinda say "okay." That's passive. I know that's not always a good thing in an FO. I'm still learning how to do this job.

Common sense says that on a heavy IMC day, especially toward the end of a trip when everyone's tired, using a little more automation makes sense.

But what's the etiquette here when things are pretty nice and calm and clear and there's no reason not to other than....the other pilot doesn't really *want* you to....?
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I’d say brief it ahead of time, along with your reasons. You’ll have some unreasonable people, and they’re usually the ones that are unsure of their own abilities. But ultimately, you’ve got to be the chameleon.
 
I feel like we should pass out copies of Hard Landings to the newbies so they can educate themselves about the history that is constantly repeating itself in this business.

Maybe if the senior skippers shared some airline history instead of the latest conspiracy theory rage porn they heard about on Newsmax, the kids might learn something useful. Instead they're told to "Do your own research..." while the Cappy trades Iraqi dinars on the dark web or some BS.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
I feel like we should pass out copies of Hard Landings to the newbies so they can educate themselves about the history that is constantly repeating itself in this business.

Maybe if the senior skippers shared some airline history instead of the latest conspiracy theory rage porn they heard about on Newsmax, the kids might learn something useful. Instead they're told to "Do your own research..." while the Cappy trades Iraqi dinars on the dark web or some BS.
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Many of the "Cappies" these days have only a few hundred hours more time than the "newbies". Many more have 1 hour repeated 10,000 times. Also, many of the newbies don't want to be told anything by anyone. They assume they know everything because they convinced HR to check all the little boxes and, thereby, ensure the shareholders a legally defensible proxy for reality, regardless of any real truth.

The problem - in aviation and our current civilization- is not proximate. The problem is systemic and structural and long-standing. Another problem is the continuing inability of the "supply chain" (read: our society) to provide a sufficient and sustained supply of 500mg "Give-A-Poop" tabs to the "American" "Working", er, "Person".

Band aides will never be sufficient. We need to cure the multi-decade 'Murican Affluenza disease.
 
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ZapBrannigan said:
I feel like we should pass out copies of Hard Landings to the newbies so they can educate themselves about the history that is constantly repeating itself in this business.
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would they have the attention span to read a book? Or even care? I can see it now “….sucks for those guys in the past, I got 4 CJOs, you know?”
 
Richman said:
Flew with a guy who had no idea who Braniff was.

It was as if all the days, hours, minutes and seconds of my life were compressed and dropped on my head.
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Most folks these days don't remember (or ever even recognized in the first place) anything that happened less than about 5 minutes ago. Some recognize and recall even less than that.

I'd argue (with no large-scale study to back my claim- though there ought to be, and anyone who does the study will probably win a Nobel) that most folks these days have ZERO appreciation for any past and live their lives about 20-30 seconds in front of their faces (except while driving- while driving, many live their lives 20-30 inches in front of their faces). Seventy odd years of screen-culture will do that to a society.
 
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form810 said:
Many of the "Cappies" these days have only a few hundred hours more time than the "newbies". Many more have 1 hour repeated 10,000 times. Also, many of the newbies don't want to be told anything by anyone. They assume they know everything because they convinced HR to check all the little boxes and, thereby, ensure the shareholders a legally defensible proxy for reality, regardless of any real truth.

The problem - in aviation and our current civilization- is not proximate. The problem is systemic and structural and long-standing. Another problem is the continuing inability of the "supply chain" (read: our society) to provide a sufficient and sustained supply of 500mg "Give-A-Poop" tabs to the "American" "Working", er, "Person".

Band aides will never be sufficient. We need to cure the multi-decade 'Murican Affluenza disease.
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Those are certainly all words.
 
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