Skywest Questions

RamRise said:
In the end seniority is seniority and you would've ended up in the same relative place regardless. My story is similar but different:
I left California and road tripped 2000 miles to ORD after sims to:
do IOE,
2 quick turns,
and displace lineholders off 2 trips so I could get my 100 hrs in 120 days,

and now 4 months later I'm headed back out west at the end of Aug. I realize this is just how it works in this industry, but it still boggles the mind why I could not have done this in SFOo_O. Not necessarily complaining as I know guys had it much worse before, but I'm starting to loose track of all the addresses I've taken up to make this job possible, it will be three this year alone!
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Six moves in five years. I know the feeling.
 
RamRise said:
In the end seniority is seniority and you would've ended up in the same relative place regardless. My story is similar but different:
I left California and road tripped 2000 miles to ORD after sims to:
do IOE,
2 quick turns,
and displace lineholders off 2 trips so I could get my 100 hrs in 120 days,

and now 4 months later I'm headed back out west at the end of Aug. I realize this is just how it works in this industry, but it still boggles the mind why I could not have done this in SFOo_O. Not necessarily complaining as I know guys had it much worse before, but I'm starting to loose track of all the addresses I've taken up to make this job possible, it will be three this year alone!
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I did the same basically. I did request IOE out of SFO so that saved me a month in ORD.


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Cloud Surfer said:
Well FWIW, PHX could be due for a large influx of CRJ 900 flying if you believe the rumors being spread around.
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I had a sapa rep in my jump on one of my last flights and he said those 900s y'all be "gettin" are gonna be the 70 'lite' addition headed to the DCI side of the house...
 
skatergeek said:
I had a sapa rep in my jump on one of my last flights and he said those 900s y'all be "gettin" are gonna be the 70 'lite' addition headed to the DCI side of the house...
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n156499000 said:
Which weighs the same as a -900 and is simply certificated to a max of 75 so not sure how it helps but whatever. I am sure Bombardier would love to get an order for any version of the 700/705/900 since they are pretty close to not having any orders left to fulfill.
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They make another version, like the CRJ440 at one point. Just a paper limitation limiting it to 69 or whatever seats, so it can be used however.
 
The CRJ705 is type certificated for a max 75 passengers, specifically for Air Canada scope. All of Jazz's 705s are being converted to 900s.

The CRJ700 is certified for a max 78
CRJ900 max 90 seats.
We put 70/76 for scope, so I don't see a good problem with only putting 70 seats in a 900. No separate type certificate unless I'm missing something here.
 
skatergeek said:
I had a sapa rep in my jump on one of my last flights and he said those 900s y'all be "gettin" are gonna be the 70 'lite' addition headed to the DCI side of the house...
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Question, why don't we instead add some gutted E175s to the certificate,with like with 6 more rows of first class...:cool:? We've got 100 options on them after all.
Not to be a d**k but the CRJ side already has the lightning fast upgrade and all the former Xjet flying it can handle, or so it seems.
 
RamRise said:
Question, why don't we instead add some gutted E175s to the certificate,with like with 6 more rows of first class...:cool:? We've got 100 options on them after all.
Not to be a d**k but the CRJ side already has the lightning fast upgrade and all the former Xjet flying it can handle, or so it seems.
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$$$ is the answer. It's all above my pay grade, but from what I heard, Bombardier gave a killer deal on new CRJ900s. Then SkyWest went back to Embraer and said, "hey we got a killer deal from Bombardier, what can you do for us." I heard we may get more E-175s but the price wasn't as good of a deal. Now, if these planes actually show up, I'll believe it when I see it.
 
RamRise said:
Question, why don't we instead add some gutted E175s to the certificate,with like with 6 more rows of first class...:cool:? We've got 100 options on them after all.
Not to be a d**k but the CRJ side already has the lightning fast upgrade and all the former Xjet flying it can handle, or so it seems.
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Like someone else said, money. As for upgrades, you can upgrade to any airplane so it shouldn't matter which side gets the growth.
 
My bad, I thought SouthernJets scope was limited by certified capacity not configured for the 70/76 seat jets (which makes sense since the CRJ-700 is certified to a max of 78). Now that I've had time to read through it, they are already at the cap for 70 seat jets (actually 1 over but if the rumors of Waldo going to the AA side are true than that solves that) and 1 under the cap for 76 seat jets. Of course, adding that 1 76 seat jet would mean parking 10 CRJ-200s which for whatever reason they guys and gals in Atlanta don't seem to want to do yet.

I really don't buy the rumor that "Bombardier gave us a sweet deal" on anything. They only show 47 CRJs left on the order books, and while there are 10 for a leasing company and 2 undisclosed, the SkyWest column shows a zero. Are there talks for more? Maybe, but considering Bombardier's recent financial woes I would think they would be genetically engineering giant albino apes to scream from the roof tops any new orders the minute someone says yes.
 
n156499000 said:
My bad, I thought SouthernJets scope was limited by certified capacity not configured for the 70/76 seat jets (which makes sense since the CRJ-700 is certified to a max of 78). Now that I've had time to read through it, they are already at the cap for 70 seat jets (actually 1 over but if the rumors of Waldo going to the AA side are true than that solves that) and 1 under the cap for 76 seat jets. Of course, adding that 1 76 seat jet would mean parking 10 CRJ-200s which for whatever reason they guys and gals in Atlanta don't seem to want to do yet.

I really don't buy the rumor that "Bombardier gave us a sweet deal" on anything. They only show 47 CRJs left on the order books, and while there are 10 for a leasing company and 2 undisclosed, the SkyWest column shows a zero. Are there talks for more? Maybe, but considering Bombardier's recent financial woes I would think they would be genetically engineering giant albino apes to scream from the roof tops any new orders the minute someone says yes.
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Not that I care. But the "rumor" is they're from the Canadian government. He government bought a bunch to help Bombardier with their financial issues. So the ones Skywest would get actually come from the government. Not new orders.
 
n156499000 said:
My bad, I thought SouthernJets scope was limited by certified capacity not configured for the 70/76 seat jets (which makes sense since the CRJ-700 is certified to a max of 78). Now that I've had time to read through it, they are already at the cap for 70 seat jets (actually 1 over but if the rumors of Waldo going to the AA side are true than that solves that) and 1 under the cap for 76 seat jets. Of course, adding that 1 76 seat jet would mean parking 10 CRJ-200s which for whatever reason they guys and gals in Atlanta don't seem to want to do yet.

I really don't buy the rumor that "Bombardier gave us a sweet deal" on anything. They only show 47 CRJs left on the order books, and while there are 10 for a leasing company and 2 undisclosed, the SkyWest column shows a zero. Are there talks for more? Maybe, but considering Bombardier's recent financial woes I would think they would be genetically engineering giant albino apes to scream from the roof tops any new orders the minute someone says yes.
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Remember, the CA and EV CR7's are pushing 15 years old (older than most of the 9E 200s for that matter) and are quickly nearing the 40K cycle issue. Park an old, expensive to maintain CR7 and slide in a new CR9 configured for 69 seats. Especially if L-ASA is going to have their flying go away, rather than transferring their 700's, just park one of those as someone takes delivery of a 69 seat CR9. That way, should scope change in the future (god hope it doesn't) you could reconfigure those 69 seat 900s into 76.
 
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