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Don’t get me started. Or do, I dunno, slow morning.
Say what you will, Jerry never did this…
- Thread starter MidlifeFlyer
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Karnage
I-am-a-pirate. I do not need credentials!
Get back to me after you have to talk a guy down from practically declaring an emergency just because we were delayed on arrival until after tower closed for the night.
Wardogg
Meat Popsicle
I once heard this exchange near an untowered field during IFR conditions.
Paraphrased some.
Appr Ctrl: Regional carrier cleared for the RNAV approach radar services terminated change to advisory frequency approved
Regional carrier: You cant terminate our radar services, we are IFR
Regional carrier: How are we supposed to stay clear of other traffic we are IMC.
Appr Ctrl: .............
Appr Ctrl: There are no radar targets between you and the field sir.
Regional Carrier: .......but we are on an IFR clearance.
Appr Ctrl: I can't see you on the radar anymore. What would you have me do?
Regional carrier landed uneventfully
NovemberEcho
Dergs favorite member
Southwest used to cancel in the air going into ECP lol
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Fixtur
Dunning-Kruger Expert
This is the way.
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
Different airlines have different rules for canceling early (not talking about the crew not understand what radar services terminated means). I’ve flown for airlines were VFR was prohibited and at my currently airline it is allowed under certain circumstances.
ahw01
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I'm WITH YOU
bimmerphile
MCAS Meat Inhibition Logic
had this argument with a 15yr NB CA (former tomcat driver, you know) who said it should be illegal to fly an airliner out of radar coverage or untowered fields because he didn’t know if there were vfr targets going into Queretaro at night in IMC.
(i still work at the same airline and now am in radar coverage maybe 5% of the day)
Skåning
Well-Known Member
“Put it on request”
MidlifeFlyer
Well-Known Member
Sadly, I can see that happening.
I was the instructor on the required IFR dual cross country. ATC sent us to an IAF, terminated radar services, and cleared us for the approach. My student asked for vectors to final. The controller laughed.
At least that was a student, but I have heard too many pilots think it’s abnormal.
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
FO on OE argued with me that it was a “required call” and they would be making it as PM. (Their old flight school required it, apparently)
We had a long chat after landing in PUW about why he had to sit out that approach and landing.
Flying into uncontrolled airports was everyday life in the Dash Trash…one of those things that doesn’t even get my event meter to flinch.
Now, let’s talk about the Capt who wanted me to “request progressive” taxi, in DTW…IN THE SIM…because “Low vis is dangerous”.