Say what you will, Jerry never did this…

[MidlifeFlyer]

I don’t even know if that would help. A 709 is essentially a checkride that can be prepared for. This guy experienced a minor unexpected situation and freaked out and almost killed a bunch of people.

If the FAA is investigating and chooses a 709 or recurrent training instead of enforcement, i would expect it to include discussion of aircraft systems and pilot judgment/decision making. (Yes, a ground oral 709 is a thing.)

Couldn’t hurt.

 

[Hacker15e]

Every option was available, and he chose the worst one outside of just pushing forward on the yoke and putting it straight in to the dirt.

 

[Skåning]

Every option was available, and he chose the worst one outside of just pushing forward on the yoke and putting it straight in to the dirt.

Every other option would have been good EXCEPT the one he chose

 

[ASpilot2be]

Every option was available, and he chose the worst one

Don't talk about my life choices like that.

 

[MidlifeFlyer]

Every other option would have been good EXCEPT the one he chose

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I saw a discussion in which someone who know the airport said that what looks like usable grass left and right of the runway actually has ditches. But that still might still have been better than taking out another aircraft.

 

[ahw01]

Gah rund

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

Don't talk about my life choices like that.

He just described my career

 

[ahw01]

He just described my career

career?

 

[Hiboglossi]

Wonderful thing about having ADSB on the panel - you can see if someone appears too close behind you, and act accordingly.

Would that have helped in a case like this, though? Since the Grumman appeared to have a complete electrical failure, presumably their ADSB-out wasn't working, assuming they had it installed in the first place.

 

[ahw01]

If the FAA is investigating and chooses a 709 or recurrent training instead of enforcement, i would expect it to include discussion of aircraft systems and pilot judgment/decision making. (Yes, a ground oral 709 is a thing.)

Couldn’t hurt.

Seems rather relevant to this case… Pilot Convicted Of Criminal Charges In Fatal Australian Crash

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

career?

Well, series of jobs.

 

[ahw01]

Well, series of jobs.

Brief periods of activity in between resting

 

[Murdoughnut]

There's some CTAF audio ...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0hS1KVbYQw

 

[ahw01]

Apart from people speaking far too quickly, some sensible post crash transmissions

 

[NovemberEcho]

Would that have helped in a case like this, though? Since the Grumman appeared to have a complete electrical failure, presumably their ADSB-out wasn't working, assuming they had it installed in the first place.

He’s talking about the first plane seeing someone about to land on top him

 

[Hiboglossi]

He’s talking about the first plane seeing someone about to land on top him

I understand that, but the plane about to land on top of him apparently had a complete electrical failure, so its ADSB-out presumably was not working. So unless I'm misunderstanding how ADSB works, the Grumman wouldn't be visible to other aircraft via ADSB.

 

[NovemberEcho]

I understand that, but the plane about to land on top of him apparently had a complete electrical failure, so its ADSB-out presumably was not working. So unless I'm misunderstanding how ADSB works, the Grumman wouldn't be visible to other aircraft via ADSB.

Ah yes good point. Does Sentry run off plane power or is it battery/ipad powered?

 

[Itchy]

Stupid, ignorant pilots do stupid ignorant things….
“Skilled pilot” lol.

 

[Fixtur]

Ah yes good point. Does Sentry run off plane power or is it battery/ipad powered?

It's supposed to run off of battery and be removable, but who knows how this yokel had it rigged up.

I don't think a sentry broadcasts adsb anyway - it only receives.

 

[BlueMoon]

Imagine doing everything right and you get t-boned by someone who created their own emergency out of pure panic. Extremely lucky nobody was killed.

Who also videotaped the damn thing and put it on the Internet for your insurance company to go after him