Say what you will, Jerry never did this…

Fixtur said:
It's supposed to run off of battery and be removable, but who knows how this yokel had it rigged up.

I don't think a sentry broadcasts adsb anyway - it only receives.
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ah the adsb-in and -out chestnut - military still wrestling with retrofitting it... what would you do for the blue angels...
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
Latest: they had to jump start before the flight. Passenger talking to local news.


View: https://youtu.be/_aXl-NLUhrw
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Man during Covid I had sole access to a plane for a month. Had to call the flight school to have a mechanic come out to jump it. All good and he leaves. I taxi to the self serve pumps and without even thinking shut down. As soon as I did it I was like “oh • that was dumb.” Wasn’t willing to call for another jump so my dumb ass dragged and pushed that plane halfway across the airport up a slight slope back to parking and went home lol
 
NovemberEcho said:
Man during Covid I had sole access to a plane for a month. Had to call the flight school to have a mechanic come out to jump it. All good and he leaves. I taxi to the self serve pumps and without even thinking shut down. As soon as I did it I was like “oh • that was dumb.” Wasn’t willing to call for another jump so my dumb ass dragged and pushed that plane halfway across the airport up a slight slope back to parking and went home lol
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I wonder what the alternator showed after startup.
 
NovemberEcho said:
Man during Covid I had sole access to a plane for a month. Had to call the flight school to have a mechanic come out to jump it. All good and he leaves. I taxi to the self serve pumps and without even thinking shut down. As soon as I did it I was like “oh • that was dumb.” Wasn’t willing to call for another jump so my dumb ass dragged and pushed that plane halfway across the airport up a slight slope back to parking and went home lol
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I did that in a rental one time. Building cross country time and landed and noticed my radios seemed to be going out, landed with no flaps and shut down and had to have one of the flight school’s CFIs come rescue me. Looking back, I probably had plenty of time to just fly the thing back home before it got dark.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
I wonder what the alternator showed after startup.
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Something like this would be my guess.

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Murdoughnut said:
Yeah, this situation sucks, but it does provide an excellent training example for just that.
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This exact scenario is why I don't like the "when in doubt declare an emergency" mantra that some pilots promote.

Yes, you should never hesitate to use the magic word to communicate to ATC that you need something. However, treating a simple malfunction like a dead alternator as an "EMERGENCY" leads too many inexperienced pilot to stop using their brains and make very questionable decisions that put them in more danger.

To my mind there are only three true emergencies (defined as "we might be dead in the next 5 minutes"), cabin fire, primary flight control problem, and low altitude engine failure. Everything else gives you time to deliberately and calmly work through the problem using all the resources available.

Start at 1:46

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLriBAHZdWg
 
USMCmech said:
This exact scenario is why I don't like the "when in doubt declare an emergency" mantra that some pilots promote.
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I agree the mantra can potentially lead to some stupid decisions, but from the limited sample I've seen, the problem tends to be the opposite. Pilots are afraid to declare an emergency.

I don't see this scenario as an example of the mantra being bad. Just a pilot who appears to have been clueless.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
I agree the mantra can potentially lead to some stupid decisions, but from the limited sample I've seen, the problem tends to be the opposite. Pilots are afraid to declare an emergency.

I don't see this scenario as an example of the mantra being bad. Just a pilot who appears to have been clueless.
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I agree that both ends of the spectrum are where the problems lie. "I think I can save the airplane" is just as bad as "when in doubt pull the CAPS handle".

In the end the mantra of Aviate, Navigate, Communicate is key. Fly the airplane (recover to stable flight), make sure you are headed away from terrain, then work the problem using all the resources available to you.
 
USMCmech said:
This exact scenario is why I don't like the "when in doubt declare an emergency" mantra that some pilots promote.

Yes, you should never hesitate to use the magic word to communicate to ATC that you need something. However, treating a simple malfunction like a dead alternator as an "EMERGENCY" leads too many inexperienced pilot to stop using their brains and make very questionable decisions that put them in more danger.

To my mind there are only three true emergencies (defined as "we might be dead in the next 5 minutes"), cabin fire, primary flight control problem, and low altitude engine failure. Everything else gives you time to deliberately and calmly work through the problem using all the resources available.

Start at 1:46

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLriBAHZdWg
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If these bozos had declared an emergency, traffic would have been cleared.
 
USMCmech said:
How? They didn't have a radio and it's an uncontrolled field.

They forgot step one, fly the airplane. The PIC had something that barely qualified as a malfunction and let emotion override reason. "Get the airplane on there ground ASAP!!!!"
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Fair, but I assume every NORDO airplane at an uncontrolled field is either an idiot or in distress. Or potentially both?
 
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