Rumor Mill: SkyWest mins lowered

I just flew with a new hire who was hired with 926 TT.

She applied just for the heck of it. They called. She said she didn't have the mins. They said don't worry. Just show up.
 
around 1 year for the bro and 2.5 to 3 for the jet. However with rumors of new deliveries(this should get the SJS'ers salivating at the mouth) these two numbers might drop to maybe 6 months and 1.5 years for the RJ. Heck, one guy upgraded in 1.5 years about 6 months ago in ORD. Previous 121 experience and turbine time. Right place at right time for him. I'd never upgrade in ORD and be reserve for the next 2 years though. Thats suicide. This was my first month holding a line after 4 months of reserve. Got weekends off! Woohoo!

I know a few guys that were my captains that spent 2+ years on reserve, and they are pretty bitter that the new guys aren't really sitting reserve. Go talk to the USAir guys.
 
mrivc211 said:
I just flew with a new hire who was hired with 926 TT.

She applied just for the heck of it. They called. She said she didn't have the mins. They said don't worry. Just show up.
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NO WAY! I am suprised at that. But I had heard that mins were being lowered too.

So you have weekends off now? Unreal! I want your life!
 
I heard somewhere that the unofficial mins were 800/150 but I cannot document that anywhere, like I said Unofficial Mins.
 
WOW!! People are leaving the industry?!? Duh.. no question as to why. When a professional pilot trains for $50+K then you offer them $20K to start what do you expect. In my industry, if you are offered anything less than $50K to start, you RUN AWAY and we aren't even specialized professionals (medical sales).

Why the hell is flying aircraft any different? I hate to say it but I dont know why people keep accepting such BS salaries from airlines.
 
meritflyer said:
WOW!! People are leaving the industry?!? Duh.. no question as to why. When a professional pilot trains for $50+K then you offer them $20K to start what do you expect. In my industry, if you are offered anything less than $50K to start, you RUN AWAY and we aren't even specialized professionals (medical sales).

Why the hell is flying aircraft any different? I hate to say it but I dont know why people keep accepting such BS salaries from airlines.
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I have said this before, but here goes:
Its' one of those jobs every little boy from my generation wanted to do; others included fireman, policeman, etc..... So supply and demand is why. Of course, this is all coming from a guy sick of living the Dilbert cartoon life, and is willing to dump his $70k a year job for jacksquat just to get an office with a view.

Reciprocally on the gender scale, every little girl wanted to be a teacher. That is why my wife get's paid a little over $40k a year with a Masters and 7 years teaching.

Now the "I always wanted to be a pilot" thing is dying off. The airlines are such nickel and dime margins that they cannot afford to really pay alot more. The need for travel is growing as families move apart. We have a problem here! Who knows where it will go.

The industry I am currently in provides a good analogy to what could happen to the airline industry a generation down the road:
30-40 Years ago, big 18-Wheelers were modernizing and they looked cool. Lots of people wanted to be truck drivers, even though the STS (Shiny Truck Syndrome) meant 14 hours a day behind the wheel, sleeping in truck stops, and getting home for a weekend every month or two.
Nowadays, trucks are common and there are fewer and fewer folks with the desire to do it. With the shrinking margins of trucking companies from higher fuel, taxes, tolls, and tightened/reduced Hours of Service limitations, there is no wiggle to pay alot more. There is currently a SEVERE shortage of truck drivers. The U.S. has tried to compensate by shifting 25% of freight to rail. At 6%, the rail system is choked. All of our indicators show that we are in BIG trouble in the coming years. Unlike the airlines, movement of goods is an ABSOLUTE neccesity for a stable economy. With fuel going up and up, and driver shortages increasing....we are in t-r-o-u-b-l-e.

Can you picture this in the air travel industry some day soon? Amazing how motivation governs alot of our economy.
 
LoadMasterC141 said:
I have said this before, but here goes:
Its' one of those jobs every little boy from my generation wanted to do; others included fireman, policeman, etc..... So supply and demand is why. Of course, this is all coming from a guy sick of living the Dilbert cartoon life, and is willing to dump his $70k a year job for jacksquat just to get an office with a view.

Reciprocally on the gender scale, every little girl wanted to be a teacher. That is why my wife get's paid a little over $40k a year with a Masters and 7 years teaching.

Now the "I always wanted to be a pilot" thing is dying off. The airlines are such nickel and dime margins that they cannot afford to really pay alot more. The need for travel is growing as families move apart. We have a problem here! Who knows where it will go.

The industry I am currently in provides a good analogy to what could happen to the airline industry a generation down the road:
30-40 Years ago, big 18-Wheelers were modernizing and they looked cool. Lots of people wanted to be truck drivers, even though the STS (Shiny Truck Syndrome) meant 14 hours a day behind the wheel, sleeping in truck stops, and getting home for a weekend every month or two.
Nowadays, trucks are common and there are fewer and fewer folks with the desire to do it. With the shrinking margins of trucking companies from higher fuel, taxes, tolls, and tightened/reduced Hours of Service limitations, there is no wiggle to pay alot more. There is currently a SEVERE shortage of truck drivers. The U.S. has tried to compensate by shifting 25% of freight to rail. At 6%, the rail system is choked. All of our indicators show that we are in BIG trouble in the coming years. Unlike the airlines, movement of goods is an ABSOLUTE neccesity for a stable economy. With fuel going up and up, and driver shortages increasing....we are in t-r-o-u-b-l-e.

Can you picture this in the air travel industry some day soon? Amazing how motivation governs alot of our economy.
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"Hey Mav, what's the number for that truck driving school again?"



I know that was gay...just couldn'thelp myself.
 
pilot602 said:
Airlines don't move goods? News to me ...
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Beg my pardon..........
I was not trying to say that. Admittedly, there are many modes of transportation, air, sea, rail, land, etc. All are affected by rising fuel costs right now as well.
 
JEP said:
Requisition Number 0000001337
Post Date 6/16/2006

Title First Officer Pilot
City OPEN

Minimum Hiring Range Will Discuss at Interview

Department Flight Operations
Description All qualified applicants interested in applying for the pilot position are invited to attend one of the following open houses:



That could lead one to think it may be lower.
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If you look at all the other open jobs at skywest "minimum hiring range" has an hourly rate next to it. It still says 1,000 hrs at the bottom.

Hopefully they lower it though because I'm at around 900tt & 250 multi.... I think I might go to a career fair anyway and talk with them, whats the worst that could happen.
 
Has anyone heared anything about having to wait 90 days to update a resume after you send it in. I'm getting this off of pilotjobs.com, but it appears to be outdated information. I am at the point where I don't meet official TT minimum, but might before another 90 days. Skywest is near the top of my list if I don't go 135 freight.
 
I'm in training, and have heard nothing of lowered mins. However, we are having trouble filling interviews.

1 year on the Bro is pushing it. The closest person I know to that was awarded class at 14 months, but it doesn't start until the 17th month. He worked his butt off picking up extra trips to get the time to upgrade. I sat reserve for four months as an FO, worked a little extra, and didn't come close to the upgrade mins at a year. That's the biggest reason I came to the jet.
 
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