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n9088d said:
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Exactly. Simple.

The MMPI is a complex test developed by highly educated psychological professionals. None of us understand everything that it looks for, evaluates, etc. That's why it's a bad idea to try to "outsmart" the test. That would be very difficult to do even for a professional psychologist who had taken hours of coursework on the MMPI exam. Bottom line... if you do anything other than be honest you're subjecting yourself to a higher risk of failing the exam. If you approach the test how it's supposed to be approached by simply reading each question and instantly selecting an answer without pondering what the test is evaluating (because you'll guess wrong anyway), there's a very good chance you'll pass.

Just some advice. I hate to see people who are otherwise sane fail the MMPI because they were over-analyzing. Don't think too hard. Just read the question and honestly select your answer, then move on.
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Another thing I have mention (too bad we did go over this stuff beforehand)

It's a good idea to add "most of the time" or whatever the case in your head when you read a question.

Do you drink more than 4 drinks in a sitting? Well...yes I do

Do you drink more than 4 drinks in a sitting most of the time? No

This is from a specific example someone brought up at their further eval. They answered yes and the psych said that made them look bad because it looked like they were a binge drinker.

If the answer to a question is only sometimes or only once, then you can say "no". They are looking for how you are most of the time.

But if it's a "have you ever?" question...best to be honest about that one time.
 
n9088d said:
None of us understand everything that it looks for, evaluates, etc.
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We know what they look for, we just don't know specifically how it is evaluated.

10 Scales of the MMPI
The MMPI has 10 clinical scales that are used to indicate different psychotic conditions. Despite the names given to each scale, they are not a pure measure since many conditions have overlapping symptoms. Because of this, most psychologists simply refer to each scale by number.

Scale 1 – Hypochondriasis: This scale was designed to asses a neurotic concern over bodily functioning. The 32-items on this scale concern somatic symptoms and physical well being. The scale was originally developed to identify patients displaying the symptoms of hypochondria.

Scale 2 – Depression: This scale was originally designed to identify depression, characterized by poor morale, lack of hope in the future, and a general dissatisfaction with one's own life situation. Very high scores may indicate depression, while moderate scores tend to reveal a general dissatisfaction with one’s life.

Scale 3 – Hysteria: The third scale was originally designed to identify those who display hysteria in stressful situations. Those who are well educated and of a high social class tend to score higher on this scale. Women also tend to score higher than men on this scale.

Scale 4 - Psychopathic Deviate: Originally developed to identify psychopathic patients, this scale measures social deviation, lack of acceptance of authority, and amorality. This scale can be thought of as a measure of disobedience. High scorers tend to be more rebellious, while low scorers are more accepting of authority. Despite the name of this scale, high scorers are usually diagnosed with a personality disorder rather than a psychotic disorder.

Scale 5 – Masculinity/Femininity: This scale was designed by the original author’s to identify homosexual tendencies, but was found to be largely ineffective. High scores on this scale are related to factors such as intelligence, socioeconomic status, and education. Women tend to score low on this scale.

Scale 6 – Paranoia: This scale was originally developed to identify patients with paranoid symptoms such as suspiciousness, feelings of persecution, grandiose self-concepts, excessive sensitivity, and rigid attitudes. Those who score high on this scale tend to have paranoid symptoms.

Scale 7 – Psychasthenia: This diagnostic label is no longer used today and the symptoms described on this scale are more reflective of obsessive-compulsive disorder. This scale was originally used to measure excessive doubts, compulsions, obsessions, and unreasonable fears.

Scale 8 – Schizophrenia: This scale was originally developed to identify schizophrenic patients and reflects a wide variety of areas including bizarre thought processes and peculiar perceptions, social alienation, poor familial relationships, difficulties in concentration and impulse control, lack of deep interests, disturbing questions of self-worth and self-identity, and sexual difficulties. This scale is considered difficult to interpret.

Scale 9 – Hypomania: This scale was developed to identify characteristics of hypomania such as elevated mood, accelerated speech and motor activity, irritability, flight of ideas, and brief periods of depression.

Scale 0 – Social Introversion: This scale was developed later than the other nine scales as is designed to assess a person’s tendency to withdraw from social contacts and responsibilities.

Validity Scales of the MMPI-2
The L Scale: Also referred to as the “lie scale,” this validity scale was developed to detect attempts by patients to present themselves in a favorable light. People who score high on this scale deliberately try to present themselves in the most positive way possible, rejecting shortcomings or unfavorable characteristics. Well-educated people from higher social classes tend to score lower on the L scale.

The F Scale: This scale is used to detect attempts at “faking good” or “faking bad.” Essentially, people who score high on this test are trying to appear better or worse than they really are. This scale asks questions designed to determine if test-takers are contradicting themselves in their responses.

The K Scale: Sometimes referred to as the “defensiveness scale,” this scale is a more effective and less obvious way of detecting attempts to present oneself in the best possible way. Research has demonstrated, however, that those of a higher educational level and socioeconomic status tend to score higher on the K Scale.

The ? Scale: Also known as the “cannot say” scale, this validity scale is the number of items left unanswered. The MMPI manual recommends that any test with 30 or more unanswered questions be declared invalid.

TRIN Scale: The True Response Inconsistency Scale was developed to detect patients who respond inconsistently. This section consists of 23 paired questions that are opposite of each other.

VRIN Scale: The Variable Response Inconsistency Scale is another method developed to detect inconsistent responses.

The Fb Scale: This scale is composed of 40 items that less than 10% of normal respondents support. High scores on this scale sometimes indicate that the respondent stopped paying attention and began answering questions randomly.
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When I took it on Tuesday, I just went with whatever popped in my head first. I tried not to think about it too much, so I could be as honest as possible. There were a couple of questions that I spent a little bit more time on because I was trying to think about it in a most of the time frame of mind as mentioned above. I finished it before some people that started way before me did. Hopefully, I don't have any problems.
 
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maybe length of time also plays a factor? just throwing it out there. If you take much longer than what ever is "expected" from someone, maybe it throws a flag up in the system that you are over thinking the questions. :confused:

I don't know, just a guess

Still no mail or phone call regarding MMPI, so far so good. One more day and the week is over. :insane:
 
Holy fecal material. Guys you are not going to believe this, but I got redirected from ZHU to D10 (DFW Tracon). I am so excited to stay close to my family. YAY!!!!!!!!! (Wait that sounded weird and unmanly so....... Have a beer for me tonight boys :beer:

UTAMAV:bandit:
 
utamav said:
Holy fecal material. Guys you are not going to believe this, but I got redirected from ZHU to D10 (DFW Tracon). I am so excited to stay close to my family. YAY!!!!!!!!! (Wait that sounded weird and unmanly so....... Have a beer for me tonight boys :beer:

UTAMAV:bandit:
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Good deal. Did you request that, or did they just contact you and tell you that you were headed elsewhere?
 
utamav said:
Holy fecal material. Guys you are not going to believe this, but I got redirected from ZHU to D10 (DFW Tracon). I am so excited to stay close to my family. YAY!!!!!!!!! (Wait that sounded weird and unmanly so....... Have a beer for me tonight boys :beer:

UTAMAV:bandit:
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Yay! The FAA beings-that-be have smiled upon us.
Good luck and congratulations to you!
 
mbalunda said:
Good deal. Did you request that, or did they just contact you and tell you that you were headed elsewhere?
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I requested it on the ground of special reasons, not just b/c I didn't want to be in ZHU

1. My grandfather, who was really close like a dad, passed away and I need to be close to my grandmother
2. Selling my home is going to be a debt incurring issue
3. My wife and I are pregnant with our second child

Too many issues to work out to go to Houston, and they are rather big ones. At least the FAA has a heart it seems, although it takes them a while to beat!

UTAMAV:bandit:
 
utamav said:
Holy fecal material. Guys you are not going to believe this, but I got redirected from ZHU to D10 (DFW Tracon). I am so excited to stay close to my family. YAY!!!!!!!!! (Wait that sounded weird and unmanly so....... Have a beer for me tonight boys :beer:

UTAMAV:bandit:
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Great deal UTAMAV!

I'm really happy for you and your family! Here's to you :beer:

All we need now is a FOL and a class date! :clap:
 
utamav said:
I requested it on the ground of special reasons, not just b/c I didn't want to be in ZHU

1. My grandfather, who was really close like a dad, passed away and I need to be close to my grandmother
2. Selling my home is going to be a debt incurring issue
3. My wife and I are pregnant with our second child

Too many issues to work out to go to Houston, and they are rather big ones. At least the FAA has a heart it seems, although it takes them a while to beat!

UTAMAV:bandit:
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glad to hear everything worked out well. I know you were pretty worried about it. :beer:
 
dreamer83 said:
some guy called me today to met me at 6 about signing some papers regarding my background check...anyone have this happen or heard of it??? worse come to worse ill update tonight to tell you guys what its all about
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^ wondering what ever happen with this?
 
I went and met the guy who was a federal investigator. He was handling my background check as far as my credit history goes. So I had to sign like 10 papers with all my credit accounts on it so they could access the information.
 
dreamer83 said:
I went and met the guy who was a federal investigator. He was handling my background check as far as my credit history goes. So I had to sign like 10 papers with all my credit accounts on it so they could access the information.
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Oh, they met up with you to sign more papers? Wasn't this all done when we faxed them the credit authorization paper (what ever it was called)?

Is this something normal? Are we all going to meet up with an investigator?
 
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