PNCL's first -900
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juxtapilot
Snowflake
do they not put "Connection" on them now?
H46Bubba
Well-Known Member
It's only painted on the left side. It's a Bombardier thing. All our aircraft that we've painted have "connection" on both sides. The six we have gotten from Bombardier have the 'connection" missing from the right side. We think they have bad designs.
OldTownPilot
Well-Known Member
Damn Canadians 
Seggy
Well-Known Member
It makes me want to puke that ANY 'regional' airline is flying these aircraft. They have been designed to take away mainline jobs and continue the downward spiral of this industry.
Nothing against any individual who flies them, they should be flown with guys on mainline seniority lists.
Nothing against any individual who flies them, they should be flown with guys on mainline seniority lists.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
I'm sorry, but you must be thinking of the non-union pilots at Skywest. The Pinnacle pilots are currently in arbitration for the new payrates, per their contract, and they will not be getting 50-seat pay for 90-seat airplanes. The arbitration decision should be coming soon on exactly what the new rate will be.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Amen, brother. I cringe every time I see one of the things in Atlanta with "Connection" written on the side. It wasn't too long ago when DAL 737-200s were being flown with just 100 seats for a lot more money.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
No doubt! Skywest too, but 9E doesn't have rates either. They might have them soon, but until they do (and you'd better believe that arbitrator will be looking at the Skywest rates to determine what the 9E rates will be), there is no 90 seat rate at Pinnacle.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
The Pinnacle contract is clear. The pilots won't be flying the airplanes until the arbitrator has ruled on the rates, and the arbitrator is required to look at industry-standard 76-seat rates to make his decision. The Pinnacle pilots will be flying the new airplanes at better payrates.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Wouldn't have done any good. The Pinnacle contract has displacement language that allows the company to displace junior pilots to the new equipment if nobody bids it. In fact, your plan actually would have helped the company, because they would have displaced their most junior pilots to these positions. That means that the new airplanes would be flown by the people with the shortest longevity, and therefore the lowest pay. I'm sure Pinnacle would have loved the opportunity to have a street Captain making $60ish an hour in the left seat of the new -900s rather than Joe H. who will probably be making near $100 an hour. If your MEC thought that it would have been advantageous to your bargaining position not to bid the equipment, then they would have told you so. Fact is, it would have done nothing to help you, and actually would have saved management some money.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Hey, I'm just glad you guys are thinking about that stuff. The pilots at a lot of regionals wouldn't even think about the importance of a good bargaining position.
mtsu_av8er
Well-Known Member
I don't think that's accurate. While I agree that these aren't exactly "regional" aircraft, they weren't designed to take away mainline jobs. That's simply rhetoric.
Was the 787 designed to return jobs to the mainline carriers?
Tram
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kellwolf
Piece of Trash
PQ? Who the hell thought up THAT ending for our tail numbers? At least it's not PT.
Hearing on the pay rates is this month, arbitrator ruling in Dec. Oh yeah, and there'll be a bunch of PCL pilots with signs out in front of the ATL airport on Dec 1st when this thing starts flying, too.
Hearing on the pay rates is this month, arbitrator ruling in Dec. Oh yeah, and there'll be a bunch of PCL pilots with signs out in front of the ATL airport on Dec 1st when this thing starts flying, too.
