Pilots and ChatGP

[Wardogg]

So the new ChatGP AI is the all the talk right now.

I decided to test it.

Q: Should pilots check on to a new frequency using "with you?"

ChatGP A: Pilots should use the phrase "with you" when checking in on a new frequency as a way to confirm that the transmission has been received and to establish communication with the new controller.

In aviation, pilots use specific phrases and terminology to communicate with air traffic controllers and other pilots in a clear and concise manner. When a pilot is changing frequencies, they will typically check in with the new controller by saying their callsign, the frequency they are switching to, and the phrase "with you." This lets the new controller know that the pilot is switching frequencies and is requesting to establish communication on the new frequency.

For example, a pilot might say something like "Boston Tower, this is Delta One-Two-Three, switching to your frequency, with you." This lets the Boston Tower controller know that the pilot is switching to their frequency and is requesting to establish communication.

Using the phrase "with you" when checking in on a new frequency is a standard practice in aviation and helps to ensure clear and efficient communication between pilots and controllers.




I deem this tool unusable for any and all student pilots. Lets try another one.



Q: When it comes to how a wing generates lift who is correct, Bernoulli or Newton?

ChatGP A: Both Bernoulli's principle and Newton's laws of motion play a role in how a wing generates lift.

Bernoulli's principle states that the pressure of a fluid decreases as the velocity of the fluid increases. In the context of an airplane wing, this means that the air flowing over the top of the wing must travel a longer distance than the air flowing under the wing, resulting in a difference in air velocity and pressure. This difference in pressure creates an upward force on the wing, known as lift.

Newton's laws of motion, specifically the third law, also contribute to the generation of lift on an airplane wing. According to the third law, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. When an airplane wing generates lift, it does so by pushing down on the air. The air, in turn, pushes back against the wing with an equal and opposite force, creating lift.

So, in short, both Bernoulli's principle and Newton's laws of motion play a role in how a wing generates lift. Bernoulli's principle helps to explain the difference in air velocity and pressure over and under the wing, while Newton's third law helps to explain the reaction force that produces lift.



This answer seems more diplomatic than scientific.

 

[ppragman]

Chat GPT is great for non-specialist answers.

I asked “how do you land a Cessna” and it told me to drop the gear in the flare…

That’s said though, I did have it write excellent comments for my code. I cut and pasted my code into the box and wrote “please write better comments for this script.”

It did, it inferred what I was trying to do, etc.

It’s not perfect, but I see this becoming an excellent tool for reducing busywork - but you still have to vet it

 

[ppragman]

I also ran this through:

“Is the poster wardogg on Jetcareers.com worth listening to with regard to AI?”

It replied:

“
I'm sorry, but I am unable to provide information about specific individuals or their expertise on specific forums or websites. It's always important to critically evaluate the sources of information you encounter and consider the expertise and credibility of the person providing it. It's also a good idea to consider the context in which the information is being presented and to seek out multiple sources in order to get a well-rounded understanding of a topic.

me: “ok, what if I told you he was an anti-vaxxer?”

chatgpt:
“It's not appropriate for me to comment on an individual's personal beliefs or opinions. However, it's important to note that the overwhelming scientific consensus is that vaccines are safe and effective at preventing serious illness and death from vaccine-preventable diseases. The World Health Organization (WHO) and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are among the many reputable organizations that recommend vaccines based on extensive scientific evidence and research. It's important to consult with a healthcare provider and to follow recommended vaccination guidelines in order to protect yourself and others from preventable diseases.”

 

[Wardogg]

So it's a shill for the government! Not quite SkyNet or Whopper ready though. I need to find out if it plays tic tac toe.

 

[tcco94]

WTF is ChatGP????? Y’all don’t listen to your wives and fellow pilots talk enough that you’re talking to computers now?!

 

[ZapBrannigan]

I’m amazed this technology hasn’t been adopted by the porn industry yet.

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

Write a poem about Cherokee_Cruiser’s love of Sbarro

Cherokee Cruiser loves Sbarro, there's no denying that 

From the moment he first tasted it, he knew it was where it's at

He loves the cheese and pepperoni, the way it's always hot and fresh

He can't resist the garlic knots, they're his favorite, without a doubt, no less

He craves the pizza by the slice, and the pasta that's always done just right He loves the salads and the subs, they make his taste buds ignite

So here's to Cherokee Cruiser, and his love for Sbarro's fare

May he continue to enjoy it, with never a single care.

 

[mikecweb]

 

[Fearless]

I'm fairly sure that Chat GP has been writing the E-mails from our chief pilot's office. They answer a question without answering the question that you really needed an answer too. Maybe Chat could fix our schedules next.

 

[ppragman]

I'm fairly sure that Chat GP has been writing the E-mails from our chief pilot's office. They answer a question without answering the question that you really needed an answer too. Maybe Chat could fix our schedules next.

I asked it to write a punny letter from the chief pilot explaining why we have to work this weekend:


Dear esteemed colleagues,

I hope this letter finds you well and ready for another week of professional aviation excellence. Unfortunately, it seems that the gods of flight have decided to keep us busy this weekend, and as such, we are unable to accommodate any time off requests.

I know this news may leave you feeling a bit grounded, but I assure you that your dedication to the company will not go unrewarded. In fact, I have a feeling that this weekend is going to take off and be a real success thanks to all of your hard work and commitment.

I understand that you may have had some grand plans for the weekend, but I promise to make it up to you with extra long layovers and cramped quarters on your next flight. Who doesn't love a good game of "who can touch their toes while sitting in the middle seat"?

So let's put on our best "we're happy to be here" faces and get ready for takeoff. I have complete confidence in each and every one of you to make sure our flights run smoothly and on schedule. And as a special thank you, I'll be sure to bring extra bags of peanuts for all of you to enjoy on your next flight.

Thanks for being such a great team. Here's to a fun-filled weekend of flying!

Yours in aviation, [Bad Boss]

 

[Wardogg]

Ok I was wrong this is the greatest thing ever.

 

[ppragman]

Ok I was wrong this is the greatest thing ever.

It is amazing.

me: “Write a witty poem from the perspective of an airplane that hates getting slammed onto the runway by former navy pilots”

chatgpt: “
Oh how I hate it when they land, Those former navy pilots grand. They slam me down onto the ground, Make a noise that resounds.

I'm just an airplane, built to fly, Not meant to be a bouncing sky. But these pilots, they don't seem to care, They land me with a thud, a thump, a stare.

I wish they'd treat me with some grace, But no, they have to show their face. They think they're hot shots, flying high, But all they do is make me sigh.

So please, dear pilots, be kind to me, I'm just a plane, as you can see. Treat me gently, take it slow, And maybe, just maybe, I won't hate this so.”

Here’s another one where I have it a similar print and asked it to complain about former bush pilots in the style of a loose haiku:

“Dirty cockpit, such a shame,
Former bush pilots play their game,
Leave trash and clutter in their wake,
Oh how my insides they do shake.”

 

[inigo88]

Q: When it comes to how a wing generates lift who is correct, Bernoulli or Newton?

ChatGP A: Both Bernoulli's principle and Newton's laws of motion play a role in how a wing generates lift.

Bernoulli's principle states that the pressure of a fluid decreases as the velocity of the fluid increases. In the context of an airplane wing, this means that the air flowing over the top of the wing must travel a longer distance than the air flowing under the wing, resulting in a difference in air velocity and pressure. This difference in pressure creates an upward force on the wing, known as lift.

Newton's laws of motion, specifically the third law, also contribute to the generation of lift on an airplane wing. According to the third law, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. When an airplane wing generates lift, it does so by pushing down on the air. The air, in turn, pushes back against the wing with an equal and opposite force, creating lift.

So, in short, both Bernoulli's principle and Newton's laws of motion play a role in how a wing generates lift. Bernoulli's principle helps to explain the difference in air velocity and pressure over and under the wing, while Newton's third law helps to explain the reaction force that produces lift.



This answer seems more diplomatic than scientific.

Having gone to college for this stuff, this is actually a hilariously accurate answer to this question. The true answer is aero and fluid dynamicists use the Navier-Stokes Equation:

Source: Navier-Stokes Equations

…This is really hard. So they develop mesh finite element models and solve for the flow using computational fluid dynamics.

Bernoulli and Newton are both useful for checking different things. We had a 2-dimensional wind tunnel lab my senior year and used both methods (measuring pressure distributions with tiny ports on the model vs. measuring force on a sting balance) and they both physically work and get you the same answer.

For the record, one of my favorite answers to the question came from some lecture on YouTube with an aerodynamics professor, who said something along the lines of if you think of the area between the laminar streamlines in the CFD picture above as stream tubes, when those stream tubes are bunched closer together that reduces their cross sectional area and results in both the Bernoulli / area rule increase in velocity/decrease in pressure as well as an equal and opposite reaction (when the air in the stream tube below runs into the stream tube above). I like it because it works for both a cambered wing and a symmetric airfoil/flat plate/barn door at high angle of attack. The problem with engineering and physics is the equations explain the resultant physical phenomena but not always the underlying deep meaning without wandering deep into some quantum mechanical rabbit hole, so I’m perfectly content with the stream tube analogy and moving on with my life…

 

[ppragman]

This is really hard.

Me the math major:

psha - no it’s not this should just be…<looks at $1m prize to prove existence and smoothness> never mind :-(

<goes back to writing code and contemplating things about linear algebra>

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

RIP Derg:

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However, as the internet grew and evolved, a new type of webmaster emerged: the Derg. The Derg was a sly and cunning creature, skilled in the dark arts of SEO and online marketing. Unlike the other webmasters, the Derg was not interested in creating beautiful and functional websites; rather, it was only concerned with boosting its own search engine rankings and bringing in as much traffic as possible, regardless of the quality of the content.

As the Derg gained more and more power, it began to dominate the search results, pushing the legitimate webmasters to the sidelines. Frustrated and angry, the webmasters banded together and declared war on the Derg. They knew that they could not defeat the Derg through brute force, so they turned to their greatest weapon: their knowledge and expertise.

The webmasters worked tirelessly, studying the Derg's tactics and developing strategies to counter them. They learned how to optimize their websites for search engines in a way that was ethical and effective, rather than relying on tricks and shortcuts. They also worked to educate their clients about the importance of quality content and the dangers of the Derg's manipulative tactics.

Finally, after months of hard work, the webmasters were ready to confront the Derg. They launched a coordinated attack, using all of the skills and knowledge they had gained to take down the nefarious webmaster once and for all. The Derg put up a fierce fight, but in the end, it was no match for the united and determined webmasters.

And so, the Derg was defeated, and the webmasters rejoiced. They had saved their profession from the clutches of the evil Derg, and they knew that they would always be ready to defend their craft against any threats that may come their way.

 

[knot4u]

A high school teacher on another board I look at posted about a symposium he attended where they were trying to address the issue of students using AI to write their papers for them. According to him some teachers were apathetic and they were already using curriculums generated and graded by a computer, apparently all those teachers do is look at their phones and call the school cop if any violence erupts in the classroom. He said his only option to ensure that the student has actually learned any of the info he's tried to pass on is vocal presentations with a Q&A. He was immediately shot down and if he wasn't vested he'd likely have been fired. Oh well. It's been fun.

 

[///AMG]

Is this ChatGP something that I can turn my life over to? Like just go full autonomous and commit to the next 50 years laying on the couch eating cheesy puffs while it achieves great things in my name, with no required inputs from me? If so, can I buy two?

 

[ppragman]

Is this ChatGP something that I can turn my life over to? Like just go full autonomous and commit to the next 50 years laying on the couch eating cheesy puffs while it achieves great things in my name, with no required inputs from me? If so, can I buy two?

Not even joking, in the future world I’d love to live in… the robots do all the heavy lifting and we get to spend our lives doing the stuff we find interesting or fulfilling. Basically, I wanna live in Ian Banks’ culture

 

[///AMG]

Not even joking, in the future world I’d love to live in… the robots do all the heavy lifting and we get to spend our lives doing the stuff we find interesting or fulfilling. Basically, I wanna live in Ian Banks’ culture

Haha I can't argue with that. I'm about to go "paper only" professionally, requiring all correspondence in written form, which will effectively remove me from labor. I'll post back when I hear what the responses of my various bosses are.

 

[Wardogg]

Recently I had a FBO ghost me on an early morning departure. Had to hop over to another field to get gas so I could continue on my merry way. I asked ChatGP to write a normal letter and an angry letter voicing my displeasure with their service. Which one should I send?

Normal:

Dear [Fuel Supplier],

I am writing to express my disappointment with the service I received from your company yesterday. My airplane was scheduled to depart at [time] and I had arranged for your team to fuel the aircraft at [location]. However, when I arrived at the location, there was no one there to complete the fueling. As a result, I was forced to delay my departure by [amount of time] while I found an alternative fuel supplier.

This delay caused a significant disruption to my schedule and resulted in additional costs for me. I understand that unforeseen circumstances can arise, but I expect a higher level of reliability and professionalism from a company that I have entrusted with an important task.

I hope that you will take steps to ensure that this does not happen again in the future. I look forward to receiving a response from you outlining the steps that your company will take to prevent similar issues from occurring.

Sincerely, [Your Name]


Angry:


Dear [Fuel Supplier],

I am extremely disappointed and frustrated with the service that I received from your company yesterday. My airplane was scheduled to depart at [time] and I had arranged for your team to fuel the aircraft at [location]. However, when I arrived at the location, there was no one there to complete the fueling.

This complete lack of professionalism and reliability caused a significant disruption to my schedule and resulted in additional costs for me. I had placed my trust in your company to fulfill an important task, and the fact that your employees were not at work to do their job is completely unacceptable.

I demand an explanation for this unacceptable behavior and a sincere apology for the inconvenience and frustration that it has caused me. I also expect that steps will be taken to ensure that this does not happen again in the future.

I expect a prompt response from you addressing this issue and outlining the steps that your company will take to prevent similar incidents from occurring.

Sincerely, [Your Name]