Orlando tower aborts Southwest takeoff roll on taxiway.

MikeD said:
Couple of idiots I fly with do the every few seconds on final “Target plus XX, sink of XX”. Shut the efff up. That’s far more distracting than anything helpful

Reason 495 single pilots ops is best, crew ops sucks.
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Is that one of the geezer alaskan guys that does that?
 
Skåning said:
Is that one of the geezer alaskan guys that does that?
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No, haha. Those guys are actually pretty chill overall. It’s a couple of old timers from a couple of other shops. Still have Hal from your shop who does sims now. Guy knows the plane and the box like the back of his hand.
 
MikeD said:
Or just look at the HSI prior to pulling out and if the runway makes sense.
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that and... you know, take about 10 minutes to familiarize yourself with the stuff that could burn you like this before even starting the engines? And also slow down? And also look at the asphalt and color of the lights?

I mean, the list goes on and on... to me this whole event screams "I'm in a hurry!"
 
KLB said:
Make a FAA Disciplinary board and put it on tv where the Secretary of Transportation is the head of it. It would be a televised spectacle where at the end he tells someone to ceremoniously bring him the scissors and present them to him to cut up "licenses".
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Ngl id watch
 
derg said:
It’s a SouthernJets thing, I really have no idea what…oh god here we go again…other carriers do to trap errors. :)
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Ngl, im fairly confident this should be a no-brainer, and Im fairy certain my shop has the same limitation. But as you said, compliance is “mid”. Drives me bonkers when someone calls for the checklist literal blocks away…it takes all of 7 seconds to run it, and only item 1 must be done before entering the runway environment…like damn man, lets at least match the glass to the grass.

Maybe im hitting the “you should upgrade” wall
 
derg said:
We're generally supposed to see the runway sign/intersection when we do the takeoff briefing, but compliance is fairly mid.
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We don't do a takeoff brief on the taxi, but we still do the glass to grass check. I don't miss trying to do a brief and focus on where we're going.
 
ASpilot2be said:
We don't do a takeoff brief on the taxi, but we still do the glass to grass check. I don't miss trying to do a brief and focus on where we're going.
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Why does anyone do a takeoff brief on taxi? Isn’t that done prior to taxi? Normal and abort/EP?

There are no checklists requiring any heads down that are done at my place at any time the aircraft is taxiing. Two-item memory check for taxi, five item memory check for when entering the runway. After landing is a flow. That’s it. Kept simple.
 
MikeD said:
Why does anyone do a takeoff brief on taxi? Isn’t that done prior to taxi? Normal and abort/EP?

There are no checklists requiring any heads down that are done at my place at any time the aircraft is taxiing. Two-item memory check for taxi, five item memory check for when entering the runway. After landing is a flow. That’s it. Kept simple.
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At the last place we would do a quick brief of the numbers, check the flap setting, and initial engine out procedure. Now it's all done before we even leave the gate.

The before takeoff checklist is done when we leave the ramp at the current place. We just hit the checklist button, make sure it's green, then close the checklist.
 
MikeD said:
Why does anyone do a takeoff brief on taxi? Isn’t that done prior to taxi? Normal and abort/EP?

There are no checklists requiring any heads down that are done at my place at any time the aircraft is taxiing. Two-item memory check for taxi, five item memory check for when entering the runway. After landing is a flow. That’s it. Kept simple.
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Well the other day leaving LAX we briefed two different runways for departure, then of course we're given a different runway and complex after push only to get a change to one of the two original runways after we started taxing. It's not that big of a deal, just gotta go through the motions.
 
Towards the end they had a "runway change checklist" that I thought was a bit of overkill. And of course, it was "recommended" to stop your taxi to go over it. Didn't work out well at ORD one night while I was in the jumpseat. There aren't many places there where ground can have you stop, apparently.
 
DE727UPS said:
Towards the end they had a "runway change checklist" that I thought was a bit of overkill. And of course, it was "recommended" to stop your taxi to go over it. Didn't work out well at ORD one night while I was in the jumpseat. There aren't many places there where ground can have you stop, apparently.
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We have a departure plan checklist which is exactly that. I haven't had to try it in ORD yet thankfully
 
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