Orlando tower aborts Southwest takeoff roll on taxiway.

[derg]

What runway number were they looking at when they taxied to line up? Were there no other planes on the taxiway?

We're generally supposed to see the runway sign/intersection when we do the takeoff briefing, but compliance is fairly mid.

 

[roundout]

We're generally supposed to see the runway sign/intersection when we do the takeoff briefing, but compliance is fairly mid.

Really? Not on my fleet. I'd say 90% plus with even some guys telling me "no, can't see the sign yet" if I ask them if I missed them saying "before takeoff checklist."

 

[derg]

Really? Not on my fleet. I'd say 90% plus with even some guys telling me "no, can't see the sign yet" if I ask them if I missed them saying "before takeoff checklist."

Perfect! I consider anything less than 100% compliance as “mid”… for reasons,

 

[roundout]

Perfect! I consider anything less than 100% compliance as “mid”… for reasons,

I'll allow it

 

[Roger Roger]

huh, we have no such restriction on doing the before takeoff check.

 

[derg]

huh, we have no such restriction on doing the before takeoff check.

It’s a SouthernJets thing, I really have no idea what…oh god here we go again…other carriers do to trap errors.

 

[scooter2525]

We're generally supposed to see the runway sign/intersection when we do the takeoff briefing, but compliance is fairly mid.

at my shop FOs are required to say "runway XX verified".

 

[jtrain609]

We're generally supposed to see the runway sign/intersection when we do the takeoff briefing, but compliance is fairly mid.

If I don't see the runway sign (outside) and the FMS (inside) match up, we're not going anywhere.

It's saved me more than once from my own incompetence.

 

[KLB]

Add this to why SVS could be tool for you 121 guys. You literally see the runway on your screen...add RAAS to this and it would be fool proof.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

5191ish.

That said, don’t we say it could happen to anyone?

It happened to me recently. I pulled into an empty Taco Bell drive-through lane only to learn that it was the Door Dash/Uber Eats/Taco Bell App lane. Signs matter. Folks could have died.

 

[ERfly]

At my shop, the captain USED to state the runway number as we crossed the hold short line to line up and wait (after receiving permission, of course) and then I, as the FO, would wait until we were aligned with the runway, the headings matched, the FMS agreed, it looked like a runway, and the airplane told us what runway we were on.

Now, we BOTH have to verify the runway BEFORE we cross the hold short line, since a certain fleet that has 6 tires on each bogie can't taxi more than 10 feet without having a runway incursion.

 

[MikeD]

It’s a SouthernJets thing, I really have no idea what…oh god here we go again…other carriers do to trap errors.

Or just look at the printed number on the asphalt/concrete

 

[ERfly]

Or just look at the printed number on the asphalt/concrete

Unless it's behind or WAAAYYY in front of you.

 

[MikeD]

Now, we BOTH have to verify the runway BEFORE we cross the hold short line, since a certain fleet that has 6 tires on each bogie can't taxi more than 10 feet without having a runway incursion.

Need to handle the individuals who screw
It up, rather than make rules treating the rest of the pilots like first day student pilots

 

[MikeD]

Unless it's behind or WAAAYYY in front of you.

Or just look at the HSI prior to pulling out and if the runway makes sense.

 

[ERfly]

Need to handle the individuals who wxrrw
It up, rather than make rules treating the rest of the pilots like first day student pilots

*Laughs in Airlines*

 

[ASpilot2be]

Unless it's behind or WAAAYYY in front of you.

Or behind you.

 

[MikeD]

Couple of idiots I fly with do the every few seconds on final “Target plus XX, sink of XX”. Shut the efff up. That’s far more distracting than anything helpful

Reason 495 single pilots ops is best, crew ops sucks.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

Couple of idiots I fly with do the every few seconds on final “Target plus XX, sink of XX”. Shut the efff up. That’s far more distracting than anything helpful

Reason 495 single pilots ops is best, crew ops sucks.

Hey, Chatty, that’s non-essential, please respect my sterile cockpit.

 

[Minuteman]

Another article found the ADS-B data and said it occurred beside 17R and that that data indicated a peak speed just shy of 70 knots (so tower might have also just misidentified classic Southwest taxi )