Oh Alaska/Boeing

[Roger Roger]

I’m personally betting on some kind of renaissance on the civil aviation side, but…it’s gonna be awhile.

I just don’t see it happening unless the entire foundation and culture of American big business changes. They’ll do just enough to get the stock price going back up and no more, and if we’re lucky that’ll be enough to prevent another similar incident. A Boeing of yore that is first and foremost an engineering company, and that bets the company on airplanes like the 74 and 77 just can’t compete for investor $$$, and in American capitalism that’s all that matters. Not the customers, not innovation, and certainly not the employees.

 

[Inverted]

Are you… intimately familiar with the type?

Zap gettin' litty like a titty over here....

 

[NovemberEcho]

Boeing CEO would like to remind everyone that if they ever have any questions or concerns they have an open door policy

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Elon Musk is right about Alaska Airlines blowout — Boeing’s DEI push could literally kill people

“Do you want to fly in an airplane where they prioritized DEI hiring over your safety?” Musk asked.

nypost.com

 

[trafficinsight]

Eat the rich.

 

[roundout]

Elon Musk is right about Alaska Airlines blowout — Boeing’s DEI push could literally kill people

“Do you want to fly in an airplane where they prioritized DEI hiring over your safety?” Musk asked.

nypost.com

Wasn’t the crew both female and they landed the plane safely?

Do better.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Per a 2023 report from Boeing, “Our goal was to achieve diverse interview slates for at least 90% of manager and executive openings” — with an actual “92% of interview slates being diverse, resulting in 47% diverse hires.”

 

[trafficinsight]

Wasn’t the crew both female and they landed the plane safely?

Do better.

Or, you know, just don't do.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Wasn’t the crew both female and they landed the plane safely?

Do better.

Did you read?



It’s called FOCUS. Boeing is focused on DEI metrics, instead of, oh I don’t know, making sure an effing door plug doesn’t blow out.


But hey, check out our hiring!

 

[mightynimbus]

Zap gettin' litty like a titty over here....

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I somehow feel less bad now about that David Hasselhoff poster I had as a teen

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Specifically, he pointed out that Boeing in 2022 began rewarding execs financially for hitting climate and Diversity, Equity & Inclusion targets— shifting sole focus away from safety and quality, where it had been before.

 

[BobDDuck]

Per a 2023 report from Boeing, “Our goal was to achieve diverse interview slates for at least 90% of manager and executive openings” — with an actual “92% of interview slates being diverse, resulting in 47% diverse hires.”

Ok. But that has nothing to do with qualifications or skills.

And besides... this door issue (and almost every other recent Boeing issue) stems from a time when the company was anything BUT diverse. Seems like a pretty good argument for what they are doing.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Boeing is financially rewarding BA mgt for the WRONG stuff.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Ok. But that has nothing to do with qualifications or skills.

And besides... this door issue (and almost every other recent Boeing issue) stems from a time when the company was anything BUT diverse. Seems like a pretty good argument for what they are doing.

Boeing came to my college campus in 2005 and they hired 3 people. 2 girls, 1 guy. 1 girl was white, the other black. The guy was Hispanic.

Corporations are going to have problems with the new era mindset. Quiet quitters and WFH drama queens.

There’s a reason this happened on a 3 month old airplane now. And not, say, 2018.

 

[BobDDuck]

Boeing came to my college campus in 2005 and they hired 3 people. 2 girls, 1 guy. 1 girl was white, the other black. The guy was Hispanic.

Corporations are going to have problems with the new era mindset. Quiet quitters and WFH drama queens.

There’s a reason this happened on a 3 month old airplane now. And not, say, 2018.

I graduated a year or so before that, from a school with a very similar engineering department to yours. Those demographics totally make sense.

And the reason this happened now and not 10 years ago has way more to do with the CHS line opening up and being used to whipsaw labor and production times on the Seattle lines.

 

[SteveC]

Did you read?



It’s called FOCUS. Boeing is focused on DEI metrics, instead of, oh I don’t know, making sure an effing door plug doesn’t blow out.


But hey, check out our hiring!

It’s not a zero sum game.

 

[Inverted]

Boeing has cut costs for decades and arguably, has not played by the rules of design, manufacturing, and certification for just as long. Boeing isn't in the position it is in, because they hired some women and POC, and focused on DEI. I can't stand that argument.

The crew did a fantastic job.

 

[Inverted]

Boeing is financially rewarding BA mgt for the WRONG stuff.

But do you really think it is as simple as "hey Carl, we can't afford to vacuum out the shards of metal on those wiring looms, we have to hire a trans woman"?

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

No of course not, as he said it’s not a zero sum game.


Still, I find their focus on items out side of aviation safety to be on the extreme side.

You would think after the MCAS debacle they would have crossed the Ts (no pun intended) and dotted the i’s.


Clearly, they didn’t. And now we have yet another grounding.

 

[MikeD]

I graduated a year or so before that, from a school with a very similar engineering department to yours. Those demographics totally make sense.

And the reason this happened now and not 10 years ago has way more to do with the CHS line opening up and being used to whipsaw labor and production times on the Seattle lines.

Sure it’s only some union issue? SWA had two 737-300s with structural failures in 2009 and 2011, both only about 15 years old, so not ancient airframes. Both of those jets were built in Wichita and assembled in Renton, and their assembly processes were the culprit.