Oh Alaska/Boeing

DE727UPS said:
UPS has manual seats in the 75's and 76's. Have heard they specifically asked Boeing to downgrade the seats from electric. Not sure if that's an urban legend but I always saw electric seats when jumpseating offline on the type.
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Buddy of mine over on the DAL 7ER fleet, said that some of the older 76's don't have headrests. Because I guess that was a customer option as well :)
 
Continental had the "six pack on the glass" config when they still had the -300 Round Dials. Once those were gone, they switched them.

Also, when Boeing developed the -300 and the -400, they developed them with half-assed glass. USAir and Piedmont (both launch customers) wanted steam gauges in them. They had to pay extra for them.

I remember riding on the old USAir 737s back in the day asking the crew how they knew where they were. Their response: "We only fly to 6 places now. It's not that hard."
 
ERfly said:
I remember riding on the old USAir 737s back in the day asking the crew how they knew where they were. Their response: "We only fly to 6 places now. It's not that hard."
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:bounce:

Probably also "we have all the ground gouge"
 
ERfly said:
Also, when Boeing developed the -300 and the -400, they developed them with half-assed glass. USAir and Piedmont (both launch customers) wanted steam gauges in them. They had to pay extra for them.
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I’m sure Western did too, then…I have a picture of me, around age 15/16, sitting in a WA registered 737-300 in SLC…I was shocked when I got up front and saw all steam gauges.
 
Inverted said:
I will just reiterate, that he didn't know the entire door was designed to open in the event of a depress either.
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I’ll take back what I said and go with, “I have no idea what happened with the flight deck door, because the only thing I’ve seen is in wild press releases that seem to be getting a lot of things wrong. I’ll wait for the official report and commentary from Boeing itself.”
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I’ll take back what I said and go with, “I have no idea what happened with the flight deck door, because the only thing I’ve seen is in wild press releases that seem to be getting a lot of things wrong. I’ll wait for the official report and commentary from Boeing itself.”
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It's the internet, there are no take backs. It is permanent.
 
DE727UPS said:
UPS went from the classic 75 and 76 cockpit displays to the new LDS (large display system) where you have three huge CRT screens. Single cue to dual cue F/D's, airspeed and altitude tapes vs round dials, speed vectors, all kinds of weird new stuff. They wanted it to be a home study and one leg with a check airman. Union got involved and we all got a couple hours in the sim.
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Frankly, it's much easier to fly a plane by reference to instruments with classic gauges then that large screen side tape nonsense. I would kill to have that display. Never liked the big screen with tapes and never will. I find it very poor for actual instrument flying.
 
Rocketman99 said:
Frankly, it's much easier to fly a plane by reference to instruments with classic gauges then that large screen side tape nonsense. I would kill to have that display. Never liked the big screen with tapes and never will. I find it very poor for actual instrument flying.
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bimmerphile said:
crashpad hangar! spin wrenches on short call
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That seems flippant but you should be aware pilots are not the only folks expected to make flying contraptions work properly in the middle of the night. I used to work as a mobile tech, I didn't graduate into it, I was somehow upgraded into it and I hated it. Yes I might be able to figure out how to make your flying palace operate but I'd rather not do it in the middle of the night so someone can see their second cousins grandson graduate from community college the next day and then cancel the flight because they were drunk and now they're hungover and want to stay in bed and fart through silk sheets as they sleep it off. I've worked enough on call to realize I'll never do it again. When you work your ass off all the way through the night to make sure an airplane is safe and airworthy and once you present your shiny jet to the powers that be in the early morning hours and they say "Thanks, but we figured out something else." Crestfallen is the word that comes to mind. I love airplanes, I don't like the majority of people attempting to profit from them.
 
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