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Boris Badenov said:
I did, and fully chuckled, too. We certainly have SMEs who are reachable through the company, and if we have a question which they can't answer, we wind up talking to someone at the manufacturer. The later hasn't happened to me yet, but it is available (I'm told).
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Is curiosity discouraged? I use to sometimes ponder things long after I'd left the hangar and had a brainstorm whilst sitting comfortably at home wondering WTF is wrong with that dumb airplane. As long as I had the S/N and didn't sound like a complete idiot, having a computer handy helps, I could get some good info and strategize for the next day, because they always need to fly the next day.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
That's how SWA wanted them. I believe they finally switched over to a normal PFD ND around 2013 when they started using VNAV. Took several more years to go from the single cue to the dual cue flight director.

Don't know what to tell ya. Takes a lot of ocean to turn the Titanic. Our NGs still don't have the fuel totalizer turned on.
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Ok but was the single cue the traditional batwing style? Because the crosshairs is a downgrade IMHO
 
Boris Badenov said:
"NOTE: Spoiler direct lift control is no longer used" Spoiler...spoiler DIRECT LIFT CON...WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?

The answer is of course that this seems to be the only mention of "spoiler direct lift control" in anything I have access to. What is it? It controls lift, I guess. How does it work? Shut up and press the buttons.
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I don't want to interfere with your hilarious rant, but I do fly another Boeing plane that uses direct lift control. Spoilers come up, dump lift, spoilers go down, regain the lift, I imagine in this case. My plane does it with leading and trailing edge flap movements in a particular approach mode of the FBW, but the concept is, I assume, similar. It'll dump/retract the TEFs to give you instantaneous negative VSI increase, and do the opposite to give you instantaneous positive VSI. Without moving the throttles

But I agree, if there is an aviation quote that will stand the test of all time, it is "land plane, get banana".....that is the essence of being pilot
 
Roger Roger said:
It’s hard to find words for how uncomfortable this makes me
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I agree. This is the worst thing in the world, right up there with Jeffrey Epstein's exploits and Hitler

Like, they told an engineer at some point "make it dumber" and when that engineer said "I don't know what you want".....they rolled out a picture of the 737-200 cockpit and said "take these million dollar displays and make it look like that". He died of a broken nerd heart 2 days later, but Boeing forgot to write the obituary
 
///AMG said:
Spoilers come up, dump lift, spoilers go down, regain the lift, I imagine in this case. My plane does it with leading and trailing edge flap movements in a particular approach mode of the FBW, but the concept is, I assume, similar. It'll dump/retract the TEFs to give you instantaneous negative VSI increase, and do the opposite to give you instantaneous positive VSI. Without moving the throttles
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Who are you, Sir Knight, who is so wise in the ways of Science? And where did you come by this Forbidden Knowledge?
 

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///AMG said:
I don't want to interfere with your hilarious rant, but I do fly another Boeing plane that uses direct lift control. Spoilers come up, dump lift, spoilers go down, regain the lift, I imagine in this case. My plane does it with leading and trailing edge flap movements in a particular approach mode of the FBW, but the concept is, I assume, similar. It'll dump/retract the TEFs to give you instantaneous negative VSI increase, and do the opposite to give you instantaneous positive VSI. Without moving the throttles

But I agree, if there is an aviation quote that will stand the test of all time, it is "land plane, get banana".....that is the essence of being pilot
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But the banana dispenser sometimes dispenses a brown banana and that isn't in the manual.
 
inigo88 said:
Turns out the cheat code went in the wrong direction, and put analog gauges on the PFD and ND. :p



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That fist photo is definitely SW, AT and VNAV are deactivated. The second one isn't as it has dual cue FD, electronic standby instruments, and a fuel totalizer, bourgeoisie decadence!
 
arkflyr said:
That fist photo is definitely SW, AT and VNAV are deactivated. The second one isn't as it has dual cue FD, electronic standby instruments, and a fuel totalizer, bourgeoisie decadence!
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I think the second one is the PMDG 737 for Microsoft flight simulator, so makes sense if they took some creative liberties and made the panel too bougie! :)
 
So called "bat wings" are single cue.

Dual cue is my preference. But that's the kind of flight director I learned with. Law of primacy and whatnot. It's definitely more precise, but also allows you to use either roll guidance or pitch guidance if you choose as opposed to being forced to use both.
 
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